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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 December 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Martin Whitfield

That leads me on to my next question. What discussions have you had with the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body, rather than the Parliament itself, about that? Are you able to share its views on taking on another body?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Martin Whitfield

If no one else has any comments, I will pass over to Ruth Maguire.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Martin Whitfield

It is the other changes that we are asking about. Clearly, there is primary legislation that has already created secondary legislation, and that will continue, but the bill hints at other secondary legislation and we just want to find out where the Government is on that matter. There seems to be a huge amount of secondary legislation; there were initial discussions when the bill was very broad, and now that things have been narrowed down, we want to establish where the Government is.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Martin Whitfield

Annie Wells, do you want to cover anything?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful. To echo what the committee has already said, we are in agreement with the basic principle, but the second that we delve into it, we are confronted with more questions than answers. Given the importance of the matter for individual voters’ trust in democracy, it is an important issue to consider.

As there are no further questions on that point, I will turn to the matter of the Electoral Management Board for Scotland. Thank you for your comprehensive coverage of that in your letters. I would like to pick up on a couple of areas in those letters, the first of which relates to the proposed constitution. You have set out the areas that the constitution would need to cover. Is there anything further that would assist the committee with regard to this matter?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Martin Whitfield

Agenda item 2 is the Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill. We are joined by Jamie Hepburn MSP, who is the Minister for Parliamentary Business, and by Scottish Government officials Iain Hockenhull, who is the elections bill team leader, Chris Nicholson, who is a solicitor and head of branch for constitutional reform and external affairs, and Lorraine Walkinshaw, who is a lawyer in the legal directorate. I welcome you all to the meeting and invite the minister to make some opening remarks.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Martin Whitfield

Therefore, you do not have a timescale for that at the moment.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Martin Whitfield

I have no intention of polling committee members now on their individual views. As a committee, we, too, would need to take evidence on that. However, in practical terms, how do you intend to take that evidence from members of the Scottish Parliament? I very much echo the attitude of the Scottish Government that this bill belongs, and election bills generally belong, in essence, to Parliament, to be facilitated by the Scottish Government. On such issues, it would be useful to know how you intend to conduct that consultation.

10:30  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Martin Whitfield

Absolutely, and I welcome the comments in a number of formats about seeking the views of this committee. I find that both reassuring and helpful. Of course, the committee’s views have to be based, in some way, on evidence that we hear, and that is an opportunity for people outside of the Parliament at various levels to participate.

Minister, I thank you and your officials for attending today—it is always illuminating—and we will be in touch with you through correspondence.

10:32 Meeting continued in private until 11:06.  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Martin Whitfield

Are you talking about automatic or assisted registration, minister? After all, there is a very subtle difference between the two: with an automatic registration pilot, either you do it or you do not, but with assisted registration, a data challenge exists for various other reasons, such as the quality of data that is held and so on. Are you talking about automatic registration—that is, people being automatically registered when it becomes apparent that they should be on the register—or assisted registration, when there is some form of positive outreach and people are told, “You can now be registered, and this is all that you need to do”?