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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is interesting, because my next question is on the committee’s statement of purpose, which exists at Westminster but is probably even more developed in the Senedd. What is that statement’s role, and is it Parliament wide? Should we perhaps consider committee-level statements of purpose in the Scottish Parliament?

I ask Diana Stirbu to answer first. I know that a lot of work is being done on that in the Senedd. Do you have a view? How do you develop such a statement?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

I think that Diana Stirbu wants to comment, too.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

I certainly do not think that that sounds creepy. I think that every committee member is glad to have that support.

I thank the witnesses for what has been a fascinating and, at times, in-depth discussion. If you have any subsequent thoughts, please reach out to the clerks as our inquiry goes on. Thank you for your contributions and evidence.

10:56 Meeting continued in private until 11:19.  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

As convener, I am gently going to move us along, because I am conscious of the time. I will bring in Sue Webber, as her questions build on what we have just been talking about.

10:15  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

Are there any other comments before I gently move us on?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

We are perhaps developing a skill at stage 2, which might benefit the whole of the Scottish Parliament. I welcome the proposal, the understanding that the Scottish Government is open to that discussion and the support that Ross Greer offers.

It is a complex picture. There are groups that will feel that they have been deliberately excluded when, in fact, what has occurred has probably been more to do with drafting and concentrating on other groups. The ability to return to look carefully at that is very important.

To go beyond amendment 226, I am very concerned about the framing of the definition in amendment 120—Ross Greer’s other amendment. I do not have a vote, but if I had, I would not be able to support amendment 120 because, notwithstanding the advice that others in this room have received, it poses a fundamental challenge.

However, in respect of the proposal to reconcile amendments 119 and 226, it is certainly sensible to come together with a recognition that children and young people need to be represented on the committee and in an appropriate way. Given the emerging consensus, I will pause on that point.

12:45  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

Your proposed new paragraph (b)(v) contains the phrase “respond appropriately”. What do you envisage as the test of appropriateness? Is it public opinion, or the opinion of committees or Parliament, or the Scottish Government?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

I am grateful—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

That makes for a much more simplistic platform—although that does not mean that it is not beneficial—on which to build services for all young people who engage with educational establishments, where we can define the duty of care. As Katy Clark has said, that is the minimum standard, and we can look above that. For people in institutions in particular, the proposal makes the playing field far easier to understand, given the various and differing types of students who engage at different stages in their life and at different stages in their development, which I think is very important, too.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Martin Whitfield

It seems to me that the very strong purpose that sits behind Katy Clark’s amendments also rests in the fact that there are some young people in educational institutions for whom there is already a duty of care, simply because of their age.