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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 October 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

Thank you. Graham?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

By way of clarification, the purpose of the statutory instruments is not to remove someone from being a councillor or an MP or being in the House of Lords; it would prevent an individual sitting as an MSP if those other consequences existed outside of those periods. It is not about this place ordering someone to step down as a councillor and saying, “Should you choose not to, the consequence will be that you cannot be an MSP.” Is that correct?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

The committee will report on the outcome of the decisions on the SSIs in due course. Are members content to delegate the authority to approve the draft report to the convener?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is excellent. Thank you. Sue Webber, would you like to start the questions?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

For clarification, minister, with regard to the proposals before the committee in these three SSIs, two have a remuneration deduction that relates to the MSP salary. Can you confirm that discussions have taken place with the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body about the consequences of the SSIs? Ailsa McKeever, I think that you suggested that that is the case, but I would like it on the record, because if we have an unresolved problem in one area that you are asking others to act on, that might raise a concern about the SSIs that are being presented to the committee as a formula for arriving at what was carried through unanimously in the legislation. Therefore, is it the case that there have been discussions with the SPCB and that the practical provisions in relation to how any deductions take place would fall to it?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

No, that is fine. Edward Mountain, do you have any questions?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

The Scottish Government will monitor it.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

Would it be correct to say that, if we look at the events that are going to happen next year and the year after, the 372-day period will take us just beyond the scheduled council elections but is more than the six months that would mean that there was no need for a by-election if the resignation was in that period? It captures the six months-plus to the election at Holyrood.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

I have a couple of questions relating to our fellow committee, the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, and its responses—and, indeed, the committee notice that was given in the chamber about, at a higher, generic level, the quality of some of the drafting that is coming out of the Scottish Government at the moment.

Ironically, the matters before us today go back to pay—it is funny how money is so important—and the tension that exists between the Scotland Act 1998 and the chosen wording in the SSIs. Minister, before I delve into what level of confidence you have that the SSIs comply with the 1998 act, can you explain why we ended up in a position whereby different terminology was used, which certainly caused tension for the DPLR Committee?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Martin Whitfield

I am not asking for the publication of legal evidence—which politicians seem to ask for at the drop of a hat—but is your position supported by legal advice?