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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 May 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Martin Whitfield

Minister, the committee understands the attitudinal difference in the way that the UK Government has presented that legislation to you, but it is the role of the committee to scrutinise the legislation, notwithstanding the attitudinal approach that has been taken.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Martin Whitfield

I was going to ask about that, minister. As I have said, and as you have made plain in your evidence today, the bottom line is that there have been very serious communication difficulties. That said, one of the things that I am picking up is that, notwithstanding that substantial problem and challenge with regard to communications and engagement, there are still fundamental elements of the bill on which there would be disagreement on other grounds, which have been articulated in written evidence and in your evidence this morning.

Homing in on one such area—digital imprints—I note that such a regime applies in Scotland only at election time. On my reading of the bill, it seems that the substantial change to that regime relates to an ability to do something that is, by common agreement, reserved, but it is also proposed that the regime be extended to be applied at all times. Subject to consultation, does the Scottish Government see any value in broadening the digital imprint requirement in that way?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Martin Whitfield

To be fair, I think that Edward Mountain’s question was about whether voter ID would be consulted on. I gather from your evidence that it will not form part of the consultation. Is that right?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Martin Whitfield

We heard evidence from others that personation—in other words, someone pretending to be somebody else—is one of reasons why voter ID is helpful. Does the Scottish Government have any evidence on the extent of personation in Scotland?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Martin Whitfield

We have discussed that aspect in the committee in relation to elections that are much closer to hand than other anticipated ones.

I am in no way questioning your experience, but some of the results of the tests that have taken place seem to show that those who felt most challenged and least supported in casting their vote made the greatest errors with the current equipment. The committee has heard of groups out there with the expertise and experience to be part of the consultation, and I think that it is very important that you go out and ensure that they are included.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Martin Whitfield

Yes. I will politely put it this way: perhaps choose a more helpful tone.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Martin Whitfield

I am grateful for that response. We will move on to questions from Paul McLennan.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Martin Whitfield

Good morning, and welcome to the ninth meeting in 2021 of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. I remind members who are joining us on BlueJeans to put an R in the chat function if they want to speak.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Does the committee agree to take in private item 4, which is consideration of its approach to standing orders rule changes, and item 5, which is consideration of the committee’s work programme?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Martin Whitfield

Agenda item 3 is an evidence-taking session on the Elections Bill. I welcome to the meeting George Adam, the Minister for Parliamentary Business, and his Scottish Government officials. Penny Curtis is deputy director in the elections and freedom of information division, and Iain Hockenhull is the Elections Bill team leader.

I invite the minister to make a short opening statement on the legislative consent memorandum.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Elections Bill

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Martin Whitfield

Thank you for those opening remarks. There are a number of areas of questioning that members will lead on according to their interests, but I will kick off by looking at the strategy and policy statement that is proposed for the Electoral Commission. You have already explained why the Scottish Government thinks that devolved elections should not be part of that. What discussions have you had with the UK Government on the proposed strategy and policy statement and can you share any outcome with us?