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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

And that individual would stand by it.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

That would be sufficient. That is fine. Does Robert or Malcolm have any comments on that?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

Excellent.

My other question is on whether it would be useful to have clarification in the bill of the opening times for signing a petition—for example, a statement that people can sign a petition between 9 am and 7.30 pm. Again, it might be useful to give support to those who are administering the petition and to provide clarity and understanding that can be pointed to. Would that be helpful or, again, should that be a decision for the petition officer? Perhaps Peter Stanyon can start.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

If we put aside the point on policy, which I accept will be indicated by the Scottish Parliament in one way or another, would providing for the petition to be signed in the area in which you are registered to vote—in essence, linking it to your constituency or local authority area—make the administration of it far more straightforward?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

I will probe that with you. We are talking about what I hope are hypotheticals. If a young person turns 16 when council elections are looming, they may trot along and vote in that election. Then, potentially, they might be told, “By the way, you can’t take part in this other election because you turned 16 two days too late for registration.” The registration teams face such problems all the time. Is it simply an administrative process, or is there something that should concern us, such as that that might cause a feeling of disenfranchisement?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful.

My final question is for Peter, and it is about the interaction between parties and petitions. Political parties, for various reasons, will throw the kitchen sink at some recall petitions. Do you have any administrative concerns about the relationship between the work that parties do to seek a particular outcome and that of parties that are seeking an alternative outcome? Is there anything that we should consider from the experiences with previous petitions? How does that experience feed into the relationship between the parties and the petitions officer?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

Is there a challenge in introducing the petition and in the subsequent regional poll such that the number of electoral methods that are being used in Scotland gets to a point at which fewer people than are sitting in this room understand them all? You have set out the need for strong communication based on a system that is as simple to understand as possible. From an administrative point of view—I recognise the evidence that you have given about the cost, but let us put that to one side—is it a step too far to bring yet another electoral system into Scotland?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

I appreciate that.

Let me just push at this issue. The four-week period makes sense, and I think that the reality is that, in all but one of the examples of the UK-wide petition examples that we can look at, the threshold was reached very early on. Should a petition close at that stage? Is there any value in its running on?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

The votes of the 60 per cent of people who go the other way.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 May 2025

Martin Whitfield

My follow-up question is on the fact that we have heard the petition described as an electoral event rather than an election. Should we give strong credence to the risk that, if you turn up at a venue, others will be able to identify the view that you will express?