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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 May 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

The microphones will be controlled by other people, but you are now switched on and we can hear you very clearly.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Martin Whitfield

Dr Williamson, I understand that there are slight problems with your connection, so we will have an audio contribution from you, which I hope we will be able to hear more clearly.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Martin Whitfield

Good morning. I welcome everyone to the ninth meeting in 2022 of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. I remind members who are participating virtually to type R in the chat function on BlueJeans if they would like to come in on any issue.

Under agenda item 1, the committee is invited to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Item 3 is for the committee to consider its next steps in relation to its inquiry into future parliamentary procedures and practices; item 4 is for the committee to consider draft code of conduct rule changes; and item 5 is for members to consider draft correspondence. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Substitutes

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Martin Whitfield

Absolutely—your consistency in attendance has been incredibly helpful.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Substitutes

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful. We will ask for a slightly wider report from the clerks that goes beyond just the statistics to what other evidence is available on when the flexibility is being used. Are members happy with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Substitutes

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Martin Whitfield

Item 2 is consideration of the rules that relate to committee substitutes, which were varied in the period from the beginning of the pandemic until the dissolution of Parliament at the end of session 5. The purpose of that was to provide more flexibility if committee members were unable to attend committee meetings and to ensure that committee work was not adversely affected by the pandemic.

The chair of the Conveners Group has written to the committee following a discussion on committee substitutes. In his letter, he has suggested that the committee might wish to consider having two named substitutes rather than one. The current situation regarding substitutes is covered in rule 12.2.A of the standing orders, which is on “Participation by substitutes”. It says:

“Where a committee member—

(a) is unavailable for a committee meeting (or any committee activity taking place other than at a meeting) because of illness, family circumstances, adverse travel conditions beyond the member’s control, a requirement to attend to other Parliamentary business or urgent constituency business”,

a substitute member may participate in their place.

I invite comments from members.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Substitutes

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Martin Whitfield

Thank you. That is helpful. Would Sue Webber like to comment?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Substitutes

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Martin Whitfield

That might be a challenge. In essence, there are only the reasons that are set out in rule 12.2A. Because agreement is usually reached in discussion between the convener and the individual involved, I am not sure that information on the reasons will be held centrally. However, the reason for using a substitute has to be one of the reasons that are set out in the standing orders, and I would be confident that that is the case.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Substitutes

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful.

The letter to the committee states:

“No issues appear to have arisen as a consequence of the temporary relaxation of the rules”.

However, we do not actually know what the situation is.

There seems to be an inclination towards an agreement that we should request the Parliamentary Bureau to give its view, and perhaps we could request the clerks to look into how frequently substitutes have been used during the period. That would put us in a better position to make suggestions.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Substitutes

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Martin Whitfield

Before I close the public part of the meeting, I would like to extend my thanks to Samantha Currie, who has served this committee as one of its clerks since 2012. In that time, she has organised 287 committee meetings, published 124 committee reports, ensured compliance for more than 300 cross-party groups and published 24 revisions to the standing orders. The clerks are an essential cog in the machine of the committees, and Sam has gone above and beyond over her time. Her knowledge of CPGs is possibly among the most detailed in the Parliament. Therefore, Sam, on behalf of myself and the whole committee and, indeed, all previous members of the committee you have worked with, I say an enormous thank you, and wish you all the very best in the future.

I now close the public part of the meeting.

09:40 Meeting continued in private until 10:41.