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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 16 January 2025
Martin Whitfield
Yes—we want robust discourse without the discourtesy.
As one of the commissioners, you are, of course, aware of the Scottish Parliament’s new SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee. Would you like to make any initial comments on its work? I have a few questions about what the commissioners have done to support one another and share resource, and about the challenges. You mentioned your cybersecurity certification, which is much to the credit of those who have worked on it. Do you have any comments on, first, the new committee’s inquiry and, secondly, the approach that you have taken, as a commissioner, with regard to your responsibilities, given the use of what is, at the end of the day, public money?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 16 January 2025
Martin Whitfield
I have a couple of questions about the proposed group. First, I note that secretariat support will be provided by an individual in a personal rather than professional capacity. Is that right?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 16 January 2025
Martin Whitfield
Thank you very much for that. We look forward to receiving your correspondence, and we will continue to aid and assist, which is the committee’s responsibility.
I will kick off with a few questions and then throw you to the lion’s den in the usual way. However, before I start, I want to pick up on something that happened at the tail end of last year, so that it is on the public record. It relates to the Standards Commission for Scotland and the section 10 direction on the outcome of investigations. As you said in your opening words, your office is in a very different position from that which it has been in in the past, which is absolutely to be welcomed.
Do you want to take the opportunity to explain what the section 10 direction was and, more important, why the Standards Commission for Scotland is happy for that direction now to fall by the wayside rather than be renewed?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 16 January 2025
Martin Whitfield
The fact that it is lapsing is an indication not only that it has come to the end of its usefulness but that the purpose that sat behind it—in this case, the reporting of each investigation—is now hardwired into the system so that it cannot—
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 16 January 2025
Martin Whitfield
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the first meeting in 2025 of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee.
We have received apologies from Ruth Maguire, and I welcome Rona Mackay, who is attending as a committee substitute. We have also received apologies from Annie Wells. I hope that both Ruth Maguire and Annie Wells recover soon.
Our first agenda item is a decision on taking business in private. Agenda item 6 is consideration of the evidence that the committee will hear from the Ethical Standards Commissioner. Are members content to take item 6 in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 16 January 2025
Martin Whitfield
Our next agenda item is to hear from the Ethical Standards Commissioner. Good morning, Ian Bruce. I welcome you to the meeting, and I am happy to hand over to you for an introduction.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 16 January 2025
Martin Whitfield
Thank you. The winding up of CPGs is certainly music to my ears, as it is appropriate.
Daniel, thank you for attending. We will consider the application under the next agenda item, and the clerks will contact you in the normal way. Thank you for your attendance today.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 16 January 2025
Martin Whitfield
I echo that view. I am satisfied that he understands what his obligations would be.
Although this is technically not part of the process of recognising the CPG, I note that the committee has expressed significant concerns about MSPs’ workloads. Daniel Johnson’s frank comments about the secretariat were helpful.
Looking at the proposal for this cross-party group, I would have had absolutely no problem with the CPG had it been proposed in the early months of the parliamentary session; I see its benefit. However, to speak to your point, Sue, when we come to our inquiry, it should perhaps be recognised that a decision needs to be made about what the cut-off date for CPGs is.
With that in mind, are committee members inclined to consent, or do you want to make it more formal than that?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 16 January 2025
Martin Whitfield
I am content to put it to a vote.
The question is, that we agree to the formal establishment of the CPG on France. Are we agreed?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 16 January 2025
Martin Whitfield
There will be a division.
For
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab)
Against
Webber, Sue (Lothian) (Con)