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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Was that the extent of the discussion? Was it just about having a look, or was there any detailed discussion?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Were there any incentives from the Scottish Government or from ministers for you to buy the company?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

The audit report said that, because you had not mentioned the BRG in your bid, it was assumed that you could provide one, and it was not until the negotiation stage that CMAL realised that. At what point did CMAL or Transport Scotland know? Was it just the minister at the time or Stuart McMillan who knew?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 16 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Who was the local MSP?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Can you come back to us with the actual dates?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Good morning. Paragraphs 104 to 109 of the report, starting on page 45, outline how the Scottish Government has fundamentally changed the arrangements to complete the vessels since the shipyard was brought into public ownership in December 2019. That includes the appointment of Caledonian Maritime Assets Ltd as its technical consultant.

During the Public Audit Committee’s evidence session with the Auditor General for Scotland on 28 April 2022, he commented on the new arrangements, stating:

“There is no denying that the arrangements are unusual. That paragraph also notes that Transport Scotland no longer has a role in the delivery of the ships. That is quite distinct from where we were.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 28 April 2022; c 37.]

Under the new arrangements to complete the vessels, CMAL has been appointed as the Scottish Government’s technical consultant and Transport Scotland no longer has a role in the delivery of the ships. Why were those decisions taken? What work was undertaken to assess the risks associated with the change in roles?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Okay. You do not think that there is any conflict of interest in CMAL’s revised role.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

Finally, at what stage in the procurement process did the Scottish Government, Transport Scotland and Scottish ministers first become aware that FMEL was unable to offer a full builders refund guarantee?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

At what point did ministers become aware that the BRG was not in place?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Sharon Dowey

We just want to know when everybody actually knew this. Last week, I was sitting here saying that all this might have been rushed, but obviously there is a question about whether they were trying to rush it because an announcement was going to be made at the yard at the end of August when CMAL was still in negotiations. I just want to try to clarify the point at which each—