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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Sharon Dowey

If someone is caught bringing in items that are saturated in drugs into a prison or giving them to prisoners, is there any penalty or action? Do we catch people who put drones into prisons? Is any action taken against them? What is the penalty for that?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Sharon Dowey

This question is to the Scottish Prison Service. I do not know which one of you will want to pick this up, but I would like some information. Ambulance call-outs to HMP Kilmarnock increased by 231 per cent between 2023 and 2024, following nationalisation. The figures that I have say that there were 106 ambulance call-outs to HMP Kilmarnock in 2024, compared with 32 in 2023 and 14 in 2022, when it was run privately.

Do you know any of the reasons why there would be such an increase in ambulance call-outs? Was the prison doing anything differently when it was run privately that has changed since it went to SPS? Can we take any learnings from that?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Sharon Dowey

So, you are saying that there needs to be earlier intervention in the community to stop such people going down the route of committing multiple offences, which makes retailers victims, given that such people commit multiple offences before they are eventually sent to prison.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Sharon Dowey

That would be good. Detective Chief Superintendent Higgins, do you want to comment on whether there are any penalties for someone who is caught sending in a drone or bringing drugs into prisons? Is a penalty or charge used as a deterrent? If there is no deterrent, people will continue to do it, so is something in place that prevents them from wanting to?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Sharon Dowey

Do you want to comment on that, Kirsten?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Sharon Dowey

Kirsten Horsburgh, I do not think that anybody disagrees that there should be diversion from prosecution and that more support in the community is needed for people who have addictions. However, in your evidence, you mentioned the words “punitive sanctions” quite a lot. You have also said that people have been put into prison for drug offences. Is there any data about why people have been sent to jail? I am interested to know whether you mean that people have been sent to jail for a drug offence alone, or whether it is because they have committed murder, raped somebody or assaulted somebody while on drugs.

I agree with Rona Mackay, who said that too many women are in prison, and many are in for shoplifting. However, I speak to retailers who work in shops, and they say the shoplifting is prolific. Usually, assault is involved, and people are charged with shoplifting multiple times before they go to jail. Is there any data on what people have been sent to prison for? Is it only drug offences that they are being sent for or, along with being addicted to drugs, have they done multiple other things?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Sharon Dowey

You mentioned police warnings. Is there any data that would enable us to see whether there has been any change in drug use or habits since recorded police warnings were introduced? I ask because, since those came into effect, green—I think that that is what it is called—can be smelled everywhere, whether you are walking along the street in cities or wherever. You did not used to smell it anywhere.

Since the practice of issuing police warnings came into effect, has there been a change in drug use? Have people started to think, “Oh, well—nothing’s gonnae happen to me”? Has that encouraged people to have drugs, because it has no consequences?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Sharon Dowey

Do you have specific treatments for alcohol misuse?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Sharon Dowey

I will move on to alcohol use in prisons. Although much of the focus in relation to substance use in prisons is on drugs, could you advise the committee whether alcohol is also an issue, whether illicit alcohol is produced in prisons and what has been done to tackle the matter?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Sharon Dowey

It seems to be a huge rise. There were 49 call-outs in the first three and a half months of 2025 alone. There has been a huge increase in the amount of call-outs in the time between when the prison was privately run and now, so it would be interesting to see whether there is a difference in the amount of drugs that are getting into HMP Kilmarnock now.