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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 June 2022
Sharon Dowey
Okay. You do not think that there is any conflict of interest in CMAL’s revised role.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
Sharon Dowey
I have a wee question about the Erik Østergaard email that was sent on 26 September. He made it quite clear that the contract should not have gone ahead. In the evidence that you have given today, you have referred to CMAL as the expert in shipbuilding. Why would its recommendations have been ignored?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
Sharon Dowey
So, even though all the issues were handed to the ministers, they did not have an in-person meeting to discuss it with the shipbuilding experts.
On 8 October 2015, an email was sent to Derek Mackay and Keith Brown. The sender’s name is redacted, as is a list of other people who were copied into the correspondence. It states that the
“DFM approved the financial implications of the contract award prior to the announcement by FM on 31 August that FMEL were ‘preferred bidder’.”
It goes on to say:
“it is clear that the Board of CMAL are still concerned”.
At the end, it asks for the minister’s confirmation that he is aware of the issues and is
“content to give approval ... to proceed.”
It also asks whether:
“the Minister wanted to speak to a representative of the CMAL Board”.
Is it fair to say that it was the Deputy First Minister who was made fully aware of the financial implications prior to the announcement by the First Minister and that it was him who authorised the contract to go ahead?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
Sharon Dowey
It looks as though the ministers were not happy with the financial implications, so they handed it over to the Deputy First Minister to give authorisation.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
Sharon Dowey
He moved on to another Government position.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
Sharon Dowey
Right.
In an evidence session that we had with the Auditor General for Scotland, he confirmed that
“In the absence of formal written authority under the terms of the Scottish public finance manual in Scotland ... If an accountable officer does not request such written authority, the accountability for the decision rests with the accountable officer.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 28 April 2022; c 28-29.]
Why would the accountable officer not have obtained that, and why would it not have been stored safely? My question is due to the number of issues that have been raised throughout.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
Sharon Dowey
How long was Mr Middleton in that role?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
Sharon Dowey
He was experienced in his role, then.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
Sharon Dowey
Was there a reason that he left? Was it for another job? What was the reason for his leaving so soon after the contract was signed?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 May 2022
Sharon Dowey
The accountabilities include ensuring that risks are managed effectively and that procurement guidelines are met, and the requirement to seek written authority from ministers if any action is inconsistent with proper performance of the accountable officer’s functions.
You commented earlier that the job is to deliver on ministers’ wishes. Why would somebody with seven years’ experience not put all that into practice? Numerous concerns have been raised around the contracts. Why would somebody with that amount of experience not get written confirmation from a minister of the decisions that were made?