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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
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Meeting of the Parliament

Health Inequalities (Report)

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Carol Mochan

The cabinet secretary will know that I agree that austerity has been the key driver of inequality. I have been positive about what has happened with the Scottish child payment, but a lot of organisations say that we need to go further. Does he agree that we should be going further at this stage?

Meeting of the Parliament

Health Inequalities (Report)

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Carol Mochan

I thank all my colleagues on the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee for the work that they put into the report, and I thank all those who gave evidence to the committee on the reality of health inequalities in our communities.

I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. My party and I fully support the recommendations of the report; indeed, I would go further and say that it is essential. We recognise that the issue of health inequalities is one of the most significant political issues that we can address in the Parliament. To allow health inequalities in Scotland to have such a detrimental impact is to prevent our country from growing, progressing and improving. Health inequalities hold back people and communities and, if the Parliament fails to recognise the scale of the challenge, they will hold back a nation.

Before I move on, I must speak about the scale of the problem that we face. In Scotland, women from more affluent areas are more likely to attend screening appointments than women in our most deprived areas. Suicide rates and cancer rates are higher in our most deprived areas than they are in our most affluent areas. As described in a recent report from the University of Glasgow, the gap in life expectancy between the most and least deprived areas has actually worsened. That is shocking and it should worry all of us in the chamber.

That gives a picture of a country whose Governments are letting it down and where the poorest pay the price of neglectful governance. I therefore welcome the recognition in paragraph 354 of the report, which states:

“The Committee considers that policy action to date has been insufficient to address health inequalities and therefore concludes that additional action is urgently needed across all levels of Government to resolve this.”

No one can speak about health inequalities without condemning the policy of austerity. It was widely accepted and acknowledged in the evidence that was given to the committee that austerity drives health inequalities and causes undue harm to our most deprived communities. The current attack on the poor by the Tories must be addressed if we are ever to make far-reaching changes to address health inequalities in this country.

Along with other members on the Labour benches, I will continue to fight Tory cuts and attacks on the poor. We will do that not only by attacking the abhorrent record of the Tories in power, but by highlighting the positive impact that a Labour Government could make in this country. However, the reality is that my job in this place is to ensure that the Scottish Government is meeting its responsibility to our citizens, and it is this Government’s responsibility to do all that it can to change the downward trajectory.

There are a lot of things on which the Scottish Government must act. If it fails to do that, it will let down many people who would benefit greatly from serious reform. In Parliament, we regularly hear plenty of warm words from the cabinet secretary and Government ministers, but we do not see enough action to seriously tackle health inequalities.

Having said that, I am confident that, with the right approach and good will, we can take into account the testimony of the experts who came to the committee. We heard from them about important matters such as access to safe and secure housing; whether we are efficiently using our housing stock; embedding community link workers in all our GP surgeries; maximising welfare; and eliminating barriers to employment. Those are just a few of the issues on which there are very necessary recommendations in the committee’s report—which, despite being far from exhaustive, is a positive step in the right direction.

The Scottish Government can and must do more. It is undeniable that we are facing economic challenges due to national and international pressures, but now is the time to stand up rather than hide behind excuses. It is perfectly clear—we received a detailed plan on the issue from the Scottish Trades Union Congress this week—that there are significant levers that the Scottish Government can use to increase pay, especially in the public sector. That is the most obvious and impactful contribution that we could make to improve economic outcomes and, with that, reduce health inequalities.

Roz Foyer, the general secretary of the STUC said:

“This isn’t a question of ability, it’s a question of ambition and political will. I’m fed up listening to the Scottish Government playing the Westminster blame game. Simply being better than the UK Government isn’t good enough.”

Roz Foyer is right. That is not good enough; that is a low bar with which to make a comparison. We in Scotland can do better.

I remind Parliament that the solution to health inequalities lies largely in widening opportunities and increasing the provision of services so that they reach every community in the land regardless of wealth or whether someone benefits from a postcode lottery.

We all accept that inequalities are complex and multifaceted, and they cannot be solved with a single policy or initiative. Health inequalities are everybody’s business. I support the committee’s call for cross-party and cross-portfolio engagement on the issue. If that can move us one step closer to eradicating health inequalities, which is what the report intends to achieve, my Labour colleagues and I will work with all parties to deliver that change.

15:37  

Meeting of the Parliament

Health Inequalities (Report)

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Carol Mochan

Will the member take an intervention?

Meeting of the Parliament

Health Inequalities (Report)

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Carol Mochan

Can Craig Hoy touch on how austerity affects communities? There are lots of reports on the issue; a recent one from Glasgow is clear that austerity is driving most of the health inequalities that we have.

Meeting of the Parliament

Health Inequalities (Report)

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Carol Mochan

Will the minister take an intervention?

Meeting of the Parliament

Health Inequalities (Report)

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Carol Mochan

Will the member take an intervention?

Meeting of the Parliament

Health Inequalities (Report)

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Carol Mochan

Will the member take an intervention?

Meeting of the Parliament

Health Inequalities (Report)

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

Carol Mochan

The minister knows that there is much on which we agree on this issue. However, given the extent to which people are living in poverty, which she has just noted and which other members, including Natalie Don, mentioned, will the Government agree to do everything that it can do to ensure that people do not continue to live like that? Will the Government take into account—I hope to see this in the budget tomorrow—some of the levers that the Scottish Trades Union Congress has suggested it could use?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Carol Mochan

It is disappointing that the stuff that is in the Fair Work Convention’s 2019 report has not been progressed. I want to be clear about whether you are saying that we could do a lot of that stuff now—particularly in relation to pay for the social care workforce, who make a big difference—and then move on to the framework bill and so on.

Meeting of the Parliament

International Human Rights Days

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Carol Mochan

I thank the member for his intervention and I am glad that he made that good point.

In a similar vein, only four years ago, the same competition went to Russia, where LGBT+ people are third-class citizens; we looked the other way when it came to Putin’s actions in Ukraine at that time, and we can all see where that led.

I am sure that, as we approach international human rights day, we will be remembering those who have fought and lost their lives. Human rights are not a solution on their own, but they certainly provide a foundation for lasting peace and decency. I trust that we will all remember that in the difficult years ahead.

16:20