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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Do you share my concern about the way that these things sometimes work? Although you may be focused on reducing the contingent workforce, at the same time, there has been a pay and grade escalation in the full-time equivalent civil service, particularly among the cohort of senior civil servants. The number of senior civil servants seems to be growing inexorably and to a greater degree than the contingent workforce.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Craig Hoy

To follow up on Mr Marra’s point, the ScotWind moneys have been a hokey-cokey reserve, with moneys going in and out of the account. Do you now have a clear policy on them that says that they should not be used to make up for what are, in effect, forecasting errors on the part of the Scottish Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Do you think that, in year, we will see some metrics? In the past, we have asked about the savings and whether you could plot them against budget increases. Are you confident that both will be heading south?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Craig Hoy

You referred to the sum of £30 million for the invest to save fund. Do you have a target for the savings that you hope that that will bring in? Is it a factor of five or something like that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Craig Hoy

You have not set a target for what the £30 million fund will bring in.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Craig Hoy

The committee welcomed the strategy, but it was a cautious welcome. My concern, and the concern of a number of organisations that fed into the process, is that the Scottish income tax system, in particular, is still unduly complex, with perhaps too many rates. What consideration are you giving to further simplifying the system—not necessarily reducing rates but simplifying and perhaps removing rates of income tax within the Scottish tax landscape?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Craig Hoy

Okay—fine. One concern on that issue is that it would be quite easy to close the stable door after the horse has bolted, so it is probably one of those areas that the Government, through its strategy, should be more aware of.

Let us turn to national insurance. Cabinet secretary, you are on record as criticising the UK Government for giving you only a Barnettised sum in relation to employer national insurance contributions. Do you accept that your stated public policy of having a larger public sector with a heavier wage bill is the root cause of the fact that Labour’s jobs tax is now having a disproportionately negative effect on the Scottish public finances?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Craig Hoy

But you would concede that you also have more senior civil servants now and that the number has grown significantly in the past two years.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Craig Hoy

I did not write down the numbers that you mentioned in talking about the Treasury figures and your estimate, but you said that approximately 40 per cent of the ENICs liabilities will have to be met from within portfolios. How achievable is that, and what sorts of measures will the departments take to meet those costs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Craig Hoy

A criticism of the budget and of the Government’s approach and strategy is that we are hearing a lot of warm words—we heard a lot of warm words yesterday about the summit—but we are not seeing hard numbers. I question the scale of the ambition around public sector pay and public sector reform. Audit Scotland referred to your concept of “rightsizing” the workforce, which is something that you talk about often. However, as I suspect would be the case in the private sector, for that to be meaningful and to deliver best value, you will have to put numbers to it. In percentage terms, how much smaller do you anticipate the public sector workforce being in future years? In monetary terms, how much are you targeting to save?