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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Tess White

Huge parts of the bill will be implemented through secondary legislation, which will mean much less parliamentary scrutiny. Can you comment on the appropriateness of that use of secondary legislation?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Tess White

If you do not have a product, how can you scrutinise it?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Tess White

There are benefits to centralisation, but there are also benefits to keeping things local. The Faculty of Advocates was represented on the previous panel of witnesses, and its written submission says:

“There is clearly a risk that the quality of services previously provided effectively on a local model is diluted when provision is attempted on a larger, national, scale.”

Is the nub of your concern that the move to centralisation means that control, power and funding will go to the centre, at the expense of quality local services?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Tess White

I do; I have a question for Eddie Fraser. SOLACE has said:

“there is very little detail or consideration of the significant implications for local authorities, not only in respect of workforce, but also in respect of council assets and liabilities”.

Do you agree with that assessment? Do you want to put on the record the effect that the bill will have on local government workforce, assets and liabilities?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Tess White

I have two questions, one for Jennifer Paton and the other for Isla Davie.

The picture that I have in my head is of being asked to comment on or scrutinise an aeroplane that is being built as it is flying through the air, which is obviously very difficult. In its written submission, the Law Society of Scotland has been very critical of the lack of detail in the draft legislation and the fact that it makes it really hard to scrutinise the bill. Therefore, I wonder, Jennifer, if you can expand on the view in the Law Society’s submission that

“It is not clear what safeguards are in place to ensure that co-design is meaningful, effective and timely and that Scottish Ministers are appropriately held to account by Parliament for the design and implementation of the National Care Service.”

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Tess White

Thank you, convener. I think that my question would be answered if Professor Glasby could share with us the figures that he mentioned.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Tess White

Are Japan, Germany and the Netherlands the main models in that regard?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Tess White

My question is for Professor Kempe. It is about quality versus consistency, in the context of care. During the consultation, Aberdeen City Council said that although the bill might improve consistency in care services, it would not necessarily improve the quality of care. What are your thoughts on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Tess White

In those models, what are the percentage differentials for contributions to the schemes? Are salary deductions for social care 50 per cent of the deductions for healthcare, or is it difficult to say? Are the deductions on a par?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Tess White

Dr Connon, you have done an excellent piece of work on what is a very complex issue. I have a question about funding models. I think that you said that, in Japan, healthcare was differentiated from social care. In the Japanese model, or in other models, are salary deductions made from a certain age for healthcare and, separately, for social care? Does that happen just in Japan or are there any other countries—say, Singapore—where it happens?