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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 March 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Tess White

The way I interpret that answer is that not much has happened with the short-life working group. It has stalled and has not had much engagement, and it is almost as if it has been put to one side and that separate meetings have taken place with the Government. Is that a fair assessment?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Tess White

Not dissent, minister—dissatisfaction.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Tess White

On that basis, minister, will you meet this committee again before the end of the parliamentary session to raise all the issues that you want to raise with the committee, which you have just mentioned, and to allow us—out of courtesy—to ask you all the questions that we wanted to ask you today?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Tess White

But you would be willing?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Tess White

If you can, that would be good, thank you. It is mentioned on the short-life working group’s website.

MSPs regularly engage with the IJBs, chief executives and council officers. In your view, how has the EHRC helped employers to not fall foul of the law?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Tess White

You can tell that I feel strongly about this. My background is in human resources. I am a fellow of the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development. In the private sector, I would have acted as the enforcer, and there would have been consequences for anybody who was not delivering on the requirements of the organisation. Right now, there are no consequences.

The committee has produced a damning report on what is happening in public sector organisations. John, you have said, “We will review it.” With respect, I say that I will come to you, because what is required is not happening.

I accept that the EHRC has only 20 staff and that it is limited in what it can do, but the system is broken. Women, including women with disabilities, have come to me and said, “Tess, please can we start to go swimming, because not being able to do so is affecting our physical health and our mental health?”

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Tess White

I hear you, but I was feeling quite positive after Jennifer’s response. Now, I almost feel as though the issue that I have raised is priority number 10, after paper clips.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Tess White

We are pressed for time.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Tess White

Thank you.

I am conscious of time, so I want to turn to the report. We have 11 weeks of the parliamentary session to go. If I were to come to the EHRC with examples of what is happening in the north-east, along with the data from the FOIs, would you work with me and consider enforcement measures where that was appropriate?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Tess White

But the Government is waiting and it is in paralysis, so will you be telling them to get on with it?