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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Tess White

Earlier, you said that the MUP will impact all drinkers. However, it will hit social drinkers, in particular, in their shopping basket. Rather than the MUP targeting harmful drinking, it will hit everybody in the social drinker group.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Tess White

Do you recognise that there are massively differing opinions on the issue? Many people think that, rather than being a silver bullet, MUP is a blunt instrument with massive holes in it.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Tess White

You are confirming that that was modelling, not statistics.

I will go back to the uprating question. Minister, you talked about whether we might use RPI or CPI in the future. Do you intend to come back to Parliament when there is a review so that there can be a robust analysis that is based on facts, not modelling?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Tess White

Let me check that, minister. You are open-minded about coming back to the committee, hopefully when you have some facts rather than models, which would be a good opportunity to come and have another review and to discuss and debate the policy.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Tess White

We will talk later about uprating. Public Health Scotland agrees that the data was based on modelling, rather than actual statistics.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Tess White

MUP is a blunt instrument to tackle a very complex problem, and the Public Health Scotland evaluation is riddled with holes. Alcohol-specific deaths are at their highest since 2008. Moderate drinkers are being penalised and will be penalised even more by the price increase. Other approaches in treatment of alcohol addiction are underfunded and underresourced.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Tess White

The Public Health Scotland evaluation of MUP is riddled with holes, as are the Scottish Government’s conclusions about its effectiveness. That is not my view; the Law Society of Scotland said:

“In our view, the study does not provide enough evidence that the introduction of MUP ‘saved lives’”,

and other stakeholders in the Scottish Government’s consultation described the evaluation as

“selective, biased, misleading or flawed”.

In your opinion, and ahead of the expiry of the sunset clause, how does that square with the robust evaluation that former health secretary Nicola Sturgeon promised during the parliamentary passage of the bill in 2012?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Tess White

Minister, I have a question about uprating, but I would like to go back to harmful drinking. If you remember, the bill’s financial memorandum emphasised that minimum pricing would

“reduce the consumption of alcohol by harmful drinkers”.

However, if we look at the facts, we see a 25 per cent increase in the number of alcohol-related deaths over the past three years alone and, over the past 10 years, the number of people accessing alcohol treatment services has gone down by 40 per cent. Do you agree that harmful and hazardous drinkers are the ones who need the greatest help?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Tess White

Thank you, minister.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Tess White

Thank you, minister. I meant for people who, when the bill becomes law, want to pray. There will be the 200m buffer zone, but if they want to pray, they could be told to go into the chapel or place of worship and silently pray there.