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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Aarhus Convention

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Tess White

Thank you. Unless you have deep pockets or get pro bono advice, there is no legal aid, so you are stuffed, really. You are nodding your heads. Thank you. Back to you, convener.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Aarhus Convention

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Tess White

In relation to the point about not being able to access legal aid, what is your view of the right to a public inquiry for community groups being taken away? I am particularly interested in cases where productive farmland, or the health and wellbeing of communities, is negatively affected. What is your view of the justice of that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Aarhus Convention

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Tess White

Will you explain what the current problems are in relation to accessing legal aid for environmental cases in Scotland?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Aarhus Convention

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Tess White

As you say, those with the right to access legal aid do not include community groups. I should declare that I have spoken to environmental groups such as Save Our Mearns and Angus Pylon Action Group. What is your view of their right to access legal aid in relation to energy infrastructure?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Tess White

It is always important to do stock checks, particularly when you are giving figures of just under a million pounds, and for the Government to provide monitoring and leadership, not just the organisation that provides monitoring. You should be asking whether you are personally satisfied that the taxpayer is getting value for money and that particular organisations—I have given an example of one that has received just under a million pounds—are doing what you, as the minister, want them to do.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Tess White

Minister, you talk about visible leadership and urgency. My question is about the reinstatement of targets. Would the reinstatement of targets within the national performance framework support the use of the framework to identify budget priorities relating to tackling inequalities?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Tess White

Thank you for that. Two key stakeholders have given feedback—I will leave that with you.

My final question is on rural proofing, which was explored last week. The definition of that was new to me, but it resonated with me. Dr Hosie raised it when she talked about the geographical and gender inequalities that are occurring through the centralisation of healthcare services, which has a huge impact. If you are to provide leadership, you should look at the healthcare portfolio. Dr Hosie said:

“rural proofing ... does not do a satisfactory job when policy starts from a central belt perspective and then the rural aspect is considered, as opposed to thinking about that from the start.”—[Official Report, Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, 29 October 2024; c 41.]

We have seen that with the belated rural workforce strategy in the national health service. Will you look at that, minister?

We have had huge feedback on the drive to centralisation. Two examples that were given last week of the impact of that were that women are having to travel huge distances—such as from Forfar to Dundee—to access long-lasting contraception and that abortion rates have increased, as an unintended consequence of certain services being centralised. How will the Scottish Government—how will you—ensure that rural proofing is considered at the start of the budgeting and policy-making process and not at its end, as things are now?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Tess White

Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Tess White

I am interested in the equalities and human rights fund, which has awarded millions of pounds to organisations since 2021. We are going through the budget process, which is an opportunity for you to provide some leadership. The fund provides funding to controversial organisations such as LGBT Youth Scotland, which has so far been allocated close to £900,000 of taxpayers’ money. This year, BBC Children in Need withdrew funding to the organisation following reports that a convicted paedophile had contributed to one of its coming-out guides. How is the Scottish Government monitoring the funding that it allocates to equalities organisations to ensure that it is a responsible funder? What is your threshold for withdrawing funding?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Tess White

Thank you, convener. I would like to ask two supplementary questions that concern issues that came up in our previous meeting.

Last week, two stakeholders gave us feedback on the pre-budget fiscal update. Sara Cowan from the Scottish Women’s Budget Group noted that we have seen emergency in-year budget changes for the past three years and said that that looks as if it is not now an exception and has instead become the norm. In relation to the budget process, Dr Alison Hosie said:

“There are lots of questions. It was not a very satisfactory process, and it was not transparent.”—[Official Report, Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, 29 October 2024; c 40.]

You have said that it is important for you to understand and scrutinise and that you want to look at areas that are stuck. This is one area that is stuck. How will you change the culture to ensure that such ad hoc in-year budget changes are not the norm?