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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Tess White

You said that it is lip service, so it is almost aspirational but there is no implementation. The rubber has not hit the road yet.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Tess White

Good morning. I have a few questions around the implementation of the 2015 act. Deputy First Minister, you say that any plan is only as strong as its implementation. Thank you also for the intent to shift the dial—I have heard both you and Mr McGowan say that this morning. There is recognition that there is a lack of complete implementation of the act. We have the figure of only 62 per cent of BSL plans having a BSL version.

On implementation, we have heard from the BDA that there is inconsistency across Scotland, there is lack of accountability and there is limited funding to support plans. Is there monitoring of the spend on BSL? We know that the spend on Gaelic and Scots is £30 million a year and that covers the 2.5 per cent of the population who speak Gaelic or Scots. Almost the same percentage of the population—2.2 per cent—are BSL users. The Scottish Government manages and sets a budget for Gaelic and Scots but does not seem to know what it spends on BSL. The question is why.

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Tess White

After this session, we have Kate Forbes, the Deputy First Minister, in front of us. What one question would you like us as a committee to ask Kate Forbes?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Tess White

In terms of your asking for ideas and thoughts, we are being told from the consultation process—which was an extensive consultation process right across Scotland—that there is a shortage of education facilities, a lack of evidence of plan implementation, a lack of classes teaching BSL and a lack of interpreters. You can take that away and implement it. Thank you for recognising it. Do you have any thoughts on those four things?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tess White

Fine—I will go first, convener.

I thank the committee for its consideration of the petition. The petitioner, Tracey Smith, is with us.

As campaigners across the north-east fight tooth and nail to prevent a vast network of super pylons, battery farms and substations from vandalising our countryside, the petition remains vitally important. The community engagement by the monopoly transmission operator, Scottish and Southern Electricity Networks, has been nothing short of disgraceful, especially when the cost to life, land and location for my constituents is so high.

There are huge fears over the loss of productive farmland and farmers’ livelihoods, plunging property values and the impact of transmission infrastructure on long-term health, and massive frustration and anger over SSEN’s unwillingness to explore undergrounding or offshoring.

Meanwhile, the energy consents unit has given the green light to 236 separate applications for major electricity schemes across Scotland since May 2022, while only eight have been rejected. Scottish National Party minister Gillian Martin has met with SSEN 16 times, but has refused point blank to meet with campaigners.

We still do not know what action the SNP Government will take now that the consultation for reforming the consenting process has ended. In fact, since the petition was lodged, even the right to a public local inquiry and local democratic input is under renewed threat, against a backdrop of the SNP and Labour working hand in glove to strip communities from Kintore to Tealing of their democratic rights. Constituents in the north of Scotland feel that they are bearing the brunt of transmission infrastructure projects and that there is a deeply unjust transition.

As the committee considers the next steps, I urge members to address the wrecking ball that the SNP Government is taking to local democracy in the name of net zero.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Tess White

I am happy to speak to that, convener. I am happy to elaborate—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Tess White

My second question for Lucy Clark is whether there is any monitoring of who experiences domestic abuse and are also deaf, especially women.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Tess White

It is bad in the cities, but it is even worse in rural areas where there are additional overlays and intersectional issues.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Tess White

There are only three in the whole of Scotland, and they are located in Dundee.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Tess White

Alana, you have talked about the budgets being cut for Deaf Links and about the squeezing of local budgets. Deaf Links covers a huge area that includes Dundee, Angus and Perth and Kinross. If you were talking to Kathryn Lindsay, the chief executive of Angus Council, what would you say to her to help improve things in Angus?