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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 December 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Tess White

Before I hand back to the convener, I note that I have raised three issues for your horizon scan, as you call it—and it is good to know that you do that. Those issues are women in prisons, women in hospitals, and the huge issue of adults with incapacity and the legal aid system. Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Tess White

The chair said in the foreword to the annual report that human rights feel “increasingly precarious”. Can you share with us what developments are behind that statement?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Tess White

Thank you. I will talk about hospitals in a minute, but in relation to prisons, have you been consulted, and has your input been requested, in relation to looking at the rights of everybody in hospitals—that is, biological men, biological women and trans people? Have you been approached by the Prison Service for comment or guidance?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Tess White

On the care and the human rights of biological men and women and trans prisoners.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Tess White

I mean in general.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Tess White

You have done some excellent work. Admittedly, you have only been in post for less than a year. There has been some great work on the spotlight reports and in clarifying issues in a complex landscape, so given everything that you are doing, if I were the Prison Service, I would come to you, as an organisation that is independent of Government and the Parliament, to seek your input and advice on a very complex topic. Has the Prison Service sought your advice and input?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Tess White

That is a chunk of work in itself.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Tess White

This is where the rubber hits the road on this issue for the committee. Let us say that we are raising a red flag now. You agree that legal aid is a huge area in relation to access to justice. We are going into human rights budgeting, and this is a case in point. A decision is about to be made, following poor consultation, that is based on finances—block fees basically average out cases and treat people like widgets, not human beings. The solicitors are apoplectic, I would say. They are massively concerned and have come to us and asked whether we can do anything. Can the commission raise red flags? If so, how can we work together—the commission and the committee—and say, “Put the brakes on”?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Tess White

Thank you, Jan. We hear you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Tess White

I will be talking about hospital care in a minute. This is just about prisons and the Scottish Prison Service.