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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Skills Delivery Landscape

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay. I have a quick final point on your point. The definitions of green skills and low-carbon or net-zero jobs have been a frustration for many of us. They are not necessarily just in construction or energy or those kinds of industries. We can talk about care work and the more vocational elements that you highlighted. Is that an opportunity for us to bring together the golden pathway that you describe, in a way?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thanks—that is helpful. The mental health moratorium working group has recommended that the six-month moratorium period could kick in after some of the medical treatment for crisis care, but that would involve stopping debt enforcement, freezing interest and stopping creditor contact. How would that affect your current engagement with debtors? What would change in how you are able to interact with them?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to the panel. Thank you for joining us this morning and for putting up with our tech issues.

I also thank you for your opening statements. It is quite clear that there are connections between gender budgeting and human rights budgeting. Across the committee, we are interested in a human rights budgeting approach that takes account of transparency, accountability and participation as tools for scrutiny and tools for the things that I think all of you have mentioned: how we raise, allocate and spend money, and therefore considering what the impacts of our budgeting decisions are.

I will go to Heather Williams first. You talked about gender budgeting and human rights budgeting being complementary. Do the principles that we apply in human rights budgeting capture what we need to capture when we think about gender budgeting?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is really helpful. It gives us quite a few different angles and perspectives to think about. Your point about data is well made. Others will probably want to pick up on that, so I will not drill down too much into it. I know that Allan Faulds wants to come in on that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Maggie Chapman

Could you unpick that a little? One of our questions is about where different intersectional categories might be perceived to come into conflict with each other. What is the ALLIANCE’s approach to teasing those out in the broader human rights budgeting approach?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay. That is fine. I am sorry—I realise that that was quite a big question. While you are thinking, I will to go to Mirren Kelly and Alexis Camble.

Mirren, in your opening remarks, you talked about agreement. As somebody who believes in subsidiarity—local by default and national by agreement—how do you deal with a rights-based approach where there is a universal application, universal experience, or at least universal intent? How do you balance that universality with the need for local decision making?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Maggie Chapman

Does Alexis Camble want to come in on training?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Maggie Chapman

There is quite a lot in all those answers, but I will leave it there for now.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Maggie Chapman

I will come back to Allan Faulds briefly on that question around intersectionality. To focus on budgeting, which is what we are asking about, what are your thoughts about teasing out the differences and the distinctions but also ensuring that there is a balance rather than the process being about pitting different communities or individuals against each other in terms of rights?