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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 October 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

So, it comes back to the decision-making power.

I am interested in exploring questions of accountability as well. Local authority folk might want to come in on this, but I will direct the question to Alasdair Ross and Alison Stuart.

How would you like questions around community empowerment and the accountability for decisions to be determined? At whatever level decisions are made—whether local government, the Scottish Government or community councils—how would you like accountability to be embedded in our understanding of the decision-making processes?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

May I have one more question on planning?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

That makes sense.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to the three of you. Thank you for joining us today. I want to drill down into some of the legal complexities and their impacts, primarily, for local government—Tony Buchanan—and for Police Scotland, Derek Frew. In your opening statement, Tony, you talked about the close partnership working that you have had, which you hope will continue, in working out some of the concerns around identifying for you, for the public and for everybody which functions are in and which are out.

This question perhaps echoes some of the points that we heard earlier. We know that the legal redress side of things is only one component of the legislation. There is a whole host of other bits in the UNCRC, and in other legislation, that are about rights protections for children and young people. Given that duty bearers are encouraged and asked to act in compliance anyway, can you unpick a little bit more the exact complexities and tensions that you have identified and whether there are things that we can consider, given the overall point that we should be complying anyway?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay. I will leave it there for now, convener.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, panel. Thank you for being here and for your written contributions and your contributions today. I want to pick up on a couple of the legal complexity issues that Paul O’Kane and Meghan Gallacher have highlighted.

Juliet, you said that children and young people do not need to know which laws are being breached where things are going wrong, but that they need to know what their rights are. Because of the partial coverage that we will have with the proposed amendments, there will be gaps. Are you or any of your members concerned that those gaps will lead to a mismatch of expectation and reality with regard to how we tackle issues when there is a breach and something goes wrong?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

My next question is for Jan Savage and Nicola Killean. I ask Jan to comment first. As commissioners, you will be given additional responsibilities and powers through the bill. This issue will be important as we look ahead to the human rights legislation, too. How will the amended bill affect your current work? What additional resources, expertise and skills will you and your organisations need to make sure that, when you are required to take legal action, you can do so in a meaningful way?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Fiona, do you want to comment, given the statutory obligations that the Law Society has? Do you see any need for thinking differently in your work?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful; thank you.

Andrew Tickell, my last question is for you. I would like to hear your thoughts on how to ensure that we offer guidance and support to duty bearers and other service providers without that leading to a focus on the litigation elements, for organisational protection or for a range of other reasons that we have already discussed. What are your thoughts and comments on how we can best avoid that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

It is helpful. You make a clear ask for clear and detailed guidance. Given the conversations that have happened to date, do you have concerns at the moment that that guidance will be fuzzy or absent? Are there things that you would like us, as the scrutinising committee, to make very clear recommendations about? It is all very well to say that we want clear guidance, but it is important to understand what we mean by clear guidance.