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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 October 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

I just want to come back on what Jim Grant and Stuart Bews, in particular, have said. We have talked about some of the issues that you and community groups have with regard to broader planning strategies, and you have mentioned the planning process, consultations and community engagement in that respect. Is there any more that we can do to reach people who cannot engage—or who might not know how to engage? After all, a consultation is only as good as the framework that sets it up and, indeed, the responses that it gets back. If we are not reaching the right people, we are going to miss folk. Can you comment on that, particularly with regard to the spatial planning aspect?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

Do you see that linking to other regional strategic work, such as the work that is happening within the regional economic partnerships? Specifically with regard to the just transition fund, have you had those kinds of conversations at the regional economic partnership level?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful. Is that work happening? Are you supporting communities to bring their expertise forward? We are talking about bringing expertise and experience together in different ways. What structures are preventing you from doing that? We have heard about funding, and I know that there will be other questions about funding. What structures are preventing you from doing that in an effective way? If we dealt with those issues, would we be able to get that cross-community collaboration and, rather than genuine consultation, genuine co-production of a long-term strategy for the just transition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good afternoon to the panel. I will start with Stuart Bews. You referred to genuine consultation and early engagement, and I am interested in how you understand broader community empowerment principles and how you understand those as being different to co-production.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

Alison, do you want to come in here?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

I want to unpick that a little bit more and perhaps think about the consequences if and when it goes wrong. In your membership and in the conversations that you have with communities, is there trust in the just transition agenda?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

Stuart Bews, I put a similar question to you. How can we make sure that we actually capture all community voices, and not just a few?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much, convener. I put on the record that I am a member of the North East Scotland Climate Action Network board.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

I have a related question on a specific issue. I would ask this of Aberdeenshire Council colleagues as well, but they are not able to be here. My question is about large infrastructure projects that are seen to be needed. I am talking about some of the Scottish and Southern Electricity Networks work on grid and infrastructure upgrading. Given that the imperative goes beyond your remit and the Scottish Government’s remit—it is a UK-wide imperative—how do we ensure, or how can you ensure, that the voices of communities that are directly affected, particularly in rural areas, are heard meaningfully?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 6 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

Is there something in that space that Moray Council could determine, given that you are probably better placed to understand what happens in your communities than an external agency coming in from outside would be?