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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much for that, minister.

I see that colleagues have no questions or comments, but I have one question that I would like to ask. The instrument makes provision for carer support payments to be disregarded. Is it your expectation that they will always be disregarded by the Scottish Legal Aid Board?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. Your point about the lack of data and of a coherent story is well made.

Sharon Horwitz, I will come to you with a similar question on the barriers and some of the challenges that people currently face. Do you think that the bill will address those challenges?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. Kevin Stewart, I saw your hand but I will bring in Annie Wells first and then I will come to you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay.

We want things in place so that people do not have to use the complaints system, but when they get to the point at which they have to use it, we want it to be robust and effective. How does the consumer panel view the bill’s provisions to extend SLCC’s powers to investigate complaints about unregulated legal services providers? What rigour will that bring to the complaints process?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Agenda item 2 is consideration of an affirmative instrument. For this item, I welcome to the meeting Siobhian Brown, Minister for Victims and Community Safety, and her officials: Shona Urquhart, legal aid policy lead, and Martin Brown, solicitor, legal directorate, Scottish Government. Thank you for joining us this morning—you are all very welcome.

I refer members to paper 1 and invite the minister to say a few words about the instrument.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Kevin Stewart has a brief supplementary question.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you—that was helpful.

I should let folk know that Fulton MacGregor has joined us online, as he has been unable to get here because of train issues.

As there are no other questions, I thank the minister very much for her evidence, and we will move straight on to item 3, which is formal consideration of the motion. I ask the minister to move motion S6M-10545.

Motion moved,

That the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee recommends that the Legal Aid and Advice and Assistance (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) (No. 4) Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.—[Siobhian Brown]

Motion agreed to.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

That completes consideration of the affirmative instrument, and I thank the minister and her officials for joining us.

There will be a short suspension while witnesses change over.

09:51 Meeting suspended.  

09:53 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

The next agenda item is the beginning of our evidence taking on the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill.

I welcome to the meeting our panel of witnesses: Vicky Crichton, secretary, Scottish Legal Complaints Commission consumer panel; Sharon Horwitz, legal director, Competition and Markets Authority; Tracey Reilly, head of consumer markets, Consumer Scotland; and Dr Marsha Scott, chief executive officer, Scottish Women’s Aid. Thank you for joining us this morning.

I refer members to papers 2 and 3, and I invite the witnesses to make a short opening statement, starting with Vicky Crichton.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much. We will move to questions and I will come to my colleagues in turn. Dr Scott, you talked about the chilling effect of the current system. Could you unpick that and say a bit more about the specific issues that women and children in particular have in accessing the legal system?