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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2024
Maggie Chapman
Good morning. I thank you for joining us and for what you have said so far.
I want to delve a little deeper into stigma and how we tackle it. You all work within healthcare and work directly with colleagues in the national health service or associated professionals. What challenges, barriers and issues around stigma in health and social care do you see in your daily work? How can we unpick some of that?
As Dan Clutterbuck and others have said, for 20 to 30 years things have not changed as we might have wished them to change. There is something cultural there and, obviously, there is something structural within the profession, too. How do you envisage that changing? What do we need to change in the health and social care profession?
I will start with Dan Clutterbuck.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2024
Maggie Chapman
I will come to Daniela Brawley next. Dan Clutterbuck mentioned the training materials and resources that NHS Grampian has developed. Can you say something about how they are used? If you have an evaluation, can you say whether they have been successful in tackling stigma within the profession?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2024
Maggie Chapman
Thanks for that, Daniela.
I will come to Kirsty Roy. With regard to your public health role, how is stigma best tackled in terms of connection to communities and the professionals who work in communities?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2024
Maggie Chapman
I will come to Nicky Coia. From your experience, and given the contact that you have had in working with so many different groups of medical and healthcare professionals around the country, what do you think would work that we are not doing, that we have not thought about, or for which we do not have a well-worked plan? On what Dan Clutterbuck has outlined, perhaps we just need the resources now. What are we missing in tackling stigma?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2024
Maggie Chapman
In your work, do you have anecdotal information that you can use to target different types of anti-stigma message? What would help us to understand exactly what needs to be targeted where and by whom?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2024
Maggie Chapman
So far, you have all highlighted the challenge with data. Some of my colleagues will ask about the mechanisms that might normalise testing and so on.
Finally, I want to ask Alan Eagleson about the film that the Terrence Higgins Trust produced, which we saw in Parliament last year. How effective has that been in challenging, tackling and combating stigma? Do you see that kind of intervention having an impact across the different communities, given the different cultural sensitivities, the different access issues and all of the things that we have already heard about with regard to inequalities and the impact of stigma on them?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 March 2024
Maggie Chapman
Thank you. You have clearly outlined why we need targeted action within the profession. As you said, however, the campaign is the baseline in the society that produces our healthcare professionals, so we need to look at that, too.
Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024
Meeting date: 6 March 2024
Maggie Chapman
How would you decide how to weight those different considerations? Are you saying, “Right, in this works contract, we really need these social or environmental outcomes”? You said that you might write such considerations into the contract, but how else might you determine exactly the sort of fluffy outcomes that you are looking for?
Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024
Meeting date: 6 March 2024
Maggie Chapman
The issue of availability and collection of data will be a thread throughout this inquiry, I think. Would it be helpful if there was a standardised approach to data collection so that you did not have to have that conversation individually every time you have initial discussions with potential contractors and suppliers? If there was something that set out the data that you have and how you want it to be recorded for the contract, would that make things easier, or would that just be too cumbersome a machine?
Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024
Meeting date: 6 March 2024
Maggie Chapman
I have a similar question for Craig Fergusson. Within the community wealth building framework and the pillars that you talked about, do you find it challenging to track the social, environmental and other outcomes of your procurement spend? What other barriers prevent us from getting the social or environmental outcomes that we might wish to get, given the current procurement set-up?