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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
Thanks, Mia. The point from this morning that you highlighted is clear. Equality and inclusion are good for everyone. They do not disadvantage.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
Before I come to Marek, I will pick up on the point that measures can be easy to implement and low cost. What is preventing people from doing those things? Is it a lack of awareness? Is it fear? Is it a combination of a range of different things?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
Paul, over to you.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
Of course, there might be cultural or historical reasons why they start off from that position, but I take your point.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
That is a failure to recognise the whole person, the whole family and the whole community that we live in.
I would like to pick up on a few other points from what we have already heard. I apologise that I cannot remember who it was, but somebody talked about reverse mentoring—it might have been David Cameron. That is a nice example of doing things a little bit differently. Do you have other examples, either as employers or from working with employers, of the support that is available for employees but also for employers, colleagues and the workforce in general to better understand why that person thinks the way they think?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
I do not think that you have taken it off track at all. I think that part of what has led us to some of the issues that we face is siloing and compartmentalisation and not seeing the holistic picture. That certainly came through very strongly in our first session this morning, when we were focused on education.
Now might be the time, Alan, for you to speak about parents and carers, and looking at that whole picture for people.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
I would like to connect those threads with what we heard about education in our first round-table session this morning. I know that not all of you heard that, so I mention that there was a comment that teenage young people are struggling in school or not attending because schools have not made—or cannot or will not make—reasonable adjustments, or because something changes for a young person and they cannot cope. If the types of qualifications and the assessments and requirements for exams that we have in schools are not beneficial for people with different forms of neurodivergence, what role can employers play in making our curriculum do better?
Fergus, I am looking at you and hoping that you will comment on that. It seems that we have a solid body of evidence and clear examples of why the curriculum for excellence does not quite get it—it could have got it, but it does not quite get it. What do we need to do differently so that the information that comes with young people as they leave school helps them? How can we assess them in a more rounded way? I do not know whether that question makes sense, but it has been going around in my brain for a bit.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
That is helpful.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
Thanks, Chirsty. That is an important point.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
Thanks. That is a useful suggestion.
Thank you all for your time in this wide-ranging and rich session; we appreciate it.
That concludes the committee’s formal business in public. We will now move into private session to consider the remaining items on our agenda.
12:18
Meeting continued in private until 12:33.