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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 October 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, minister, and thank you for joining us. I will follow on from Colin Smyth’s questions. In your opening statement, you mentioned maintaining opportunities for communities in the Grangemouth area, and, in response to the previous question, you said that there is on-going work with Falkirk Council to support communities, in particular. Will you say a bit more about that? What specific work is the UK Government involved in to support not only the workers who are directly employed by and affected by Grangemouth but the wider Grangemouth community?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

I have a couple of supplementary questions that pick up on some of the comments that you have made. I was struck by Jim Farish’s comment that there is almost a mismatch between the legislation or what people know they should be delivering and people’s experience of what is delivered. Shelley Gray talked about the absence of a shared understanding across Scotland of what rights are, what they could be and what they should or must be—all those things.

You spoke about your work with civil society, your work going into communities and all those elements. Is there a role for us, as MSPs, in that regard? You provide training to this committee reasonably regularly on different elements of human rights in both the Scottish and UK landscapes, but also globally. You have also worked with the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. Given what you said about the value of information from casework and the case loads that MSPs have in certain areas, can we do more across Parliament to help MSPs to better understand what they should be looking for so that they can come to you or to us as a committee and we can have a better shared understanding? Where could you support that work?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks, Jan. Annie, back to you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks—that is helpful. Those of us who are on this committee probably think more regularly than others do about the human rights deficiencies that constituents come to us with. Maybe I am speaking ill of some of my colleagues, but I assume that those things are not uppermost in all our minds when we deal with casework. There is substantial work to be done, which may include the committee considering how we share these conversations with our colleagues. We have done some of that work in the budgeting conversations that we have had, given that equalities and human rights budgeting is everybody’s job and not just the job of members of this committee.

Do members have any other thoughts or questions that they want to raise? I do not see anyone shouting out in the room or online. Do members of the panel have any final comments or thoughts that they want to leave with us?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

I think that Jim Farish and Shelley Gray want to come in as well.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. As Fulton MacGregor has no further questions, we move to Meghan Gallacher.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

You mentioned piloting a new monitoring model and gathering information around that. How will you identify and track the success of what you do? Your priorities and focus have shifted, so how will you measure your successes?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Does anybody else want to come in on that? No. Paul, do you have any more questions?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

I will bring Jim Farish in on that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you—that is helpful. From what you have all said, your successes in the past 12 months have laid the foundation for that subsequent work.

I have a final question, after which I will bring in Paul O’Kane. Jan Savage mentioned that there has been a delay in recruiting the new chair and that broader conversations with the Scottish Parliament Corporate Body have taken place. I make everybody aware that I am a member of that SPCB, so I have some knowledge of those conversations.

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Jan Savage has spoken about the transformations that the commission plans to deliver. Has the delay in recruiting a new chair been problematic? It has placed additional work on the existing commissioners. When the new chair is in place, what conversations will take place with them, given the evolving rights landscape in Scotland, the potential new powers of the commission and the new work that it will have to do?