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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 May 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Agenda item 2 is consideration of an affirmative instrument. For this item, I welcome to the meeting Siobhian Brown, Minister for Victims and Community Safety, and her officials: Shona Urquhart, legal aid policy lead, and Martin Brown, solicitor, legal directorate, Scottish Government. Thank you for joining us this morning—you are all very welcome.

I refer members to paper 1 and invite the minister to say a few words about the instrument.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you—that was helpful.

I should let folk know that Fulton MacGregor has joined us online, as he has been unable to get here because of train issues.

As there are no other questions, I thank the minister very much for her evidence, and we will move straight on to item 3, which is formal consideration of the motion. I ask the minister to move motion S6M-10545.

Motion moved,

That the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee recommends that the Legal Aid and Advice and Assistance (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) (No. 4) Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.—[Siobhian Brown]

Motion agreed to.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

That completes consideration of the affirmative instrument, and I thank the minister and her officials for joining us.

There will be a short suspension while witnesses change over.

09:51 Meeting suspended.  

09:53 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

The next agenda item is the beginning of our evidence taking on the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill.

I welcome to the meeting our panel of witnesses: Vicky Crichton, secretary, Scottish Legal Complaints Commission consumer panel; Sharon Horwitz, legal director, Competition and Markets Authority; Tracey Reilly, head of consumer markets, Consumer Scotland; and Dr Marsha Scott, chief executive officer, Scottish Women’s Aid. Thank you for joining us this morning.

I refer members to papers 2 and 3, and I invite the witnesses to make a short opening statement, starting with Vicky Crichton.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much. We will move to questions and I will come to my colleagues in turn. Dr Scott, you talked about the chilling effect of the current system. Could you unpick that and say a bit more about the specific issues that women and children in particular have in accessing the legal system?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much, that is helpful. In your view, as the bill is currently drafted, do we have the capacity to set the strong regulatory standards that you say are so vital?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for that clarification. Kevin Stewart, did you want to come in on this? I have one final question about complaints.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

I thank all our witnesses for their contributions and for the written evidence that they provided in advance. We have covered an awful lot of ground, but if you think that you could provide more information on something, please send us further communication. We will be looking at the bill in the coming weeks, when we are not looking at the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill. It will be an interesting and mixed few weeks for us. That concludes our formal business for today’s meeting. [Interruption.] Marsha Scott has one last thing to say.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 19th meeting in 2023 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have apologies today from the convener, Kaukab Stewart, and Paul O’Kane. However, Kevin Stewart is attending our meeting as a substitute for the convener, and I welcome him to the meeting. Karen Adam and Meghan Gallacher are attending the meeting virtually.

Agenda item 1 is a declaration of interests. I invite Kevin Stewart to declare any relevant interests.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much for that.