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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 May 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful. In the conversations that you, COSLA and others have had, do you get the sense that there is a shared understanding across different partners of what that guidance needs to say?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Is there a danger that that might undermine the culture of compliance that we want to support and encourage and that we want to see going beyond the letter of the law?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you—that is helpful. I suppose that that links to the point that you made earlier. If we—by “we”, I mean us collectively, not us in Parliament or you separately—do not get the guidance and the resource allocation right, do you think that there is a danger that, because we are worried about litigation, duty bearers might focus exclusively on the legal elements rather than the bits that are not included in incorporation because they involve UK acts rather than Scottish Parliament acts, to the detriment of the excluded areas when it comes to providing the service?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to the three of you. Thank you for joining us today. I want to drill down into some of the legal complexities and their impacts, primarily, for local government—Tony Buchanan—and for Police Scotland, Derek Frew. In your opening statement, Tony, you talked about the close partnership working that you have had, which you hope will continue, in working out some of the concerns around identifying for you, for the public and for everybody which functions are in and which are out.

This question perhaps echoes some of the points that we heard earlier. We know that the legal redress side of things is only one component of the legislation. There is a whole host of other bits in the UNCRC, and in other legislation, that are about rights protections for children and young people. Given that duty bearers are encouraged and asked to act in compliance anyway, can you unpick a little bit more the exact complexities and tensions that you have identified and whether there are things that we can consider, given the overall point that we should be complying anyway?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay. I will leave it there for now, convener.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is really helpful.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

I know that other members want to come in, so I will leave it there.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is really helpful. I have a general question. Would you support the moratorium if it froze interest and charges in that way?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning. Thank you for joining us and for what you have said so far. I will continue with some questions on the relationship between you, as money advisers, and the kicking in—or not—of the mental health moratorium. Natalia Mendel spoke clearly about how even contacting money advisers can be a trigger and a potential hurdle for some people, and there have been suggestions about who will make the application for the moratorium and how we can ensure that that person, if it is the money adviser, will have the right information.

Natalia, do you see a situation in which you, as money advisers, might end up being gatekeepers, in a way? Are you potentially being given a responsibility that you do not want to have in your role? Is there another way of looking at the process for how the moratorium will be put in place, if we get the criteria for it sorted out?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Absolutely. I was not trying to suggest questions of gate keeping. You made the point that partnership, collaboration and a multi-agency approach is important. Is there enough in the bill or the guidance around that? What would you like to see to support that?

Natalia Mendel, you mentioned that the people who come to you are already in a better place than many people who cannot or do not know about all that. What do we need to ensure is in place so that people know that you exist and that there is support for mental health—Joe McMonagle talked about care and support in the community—so that people do not fall through the cracks? How can we use the bill and this process to plug those gaps?