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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

I have a question that is possibly slightly cheeky. In your earlier responses, Lady Dorrian, you were very clear about the powers that need to reside in the person of the Lord President. What happens if that person goes rogue? [Laughter.] Sorry.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay. Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thanks, Kaukab. Good morning, Esther. Thank you for joining us. I will follow up your last point about oversight and the final say being different to regulation. Can you unpick what you mean by that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

I appreciate that. Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to the panel. Thank you for joining us and articulating so clearly the concerns that you have outlined.

Will you unpick a little more your concerns around the proposal to abolish the right of appeal to the Court of Session? What would that do, or what do you perceive that it would do, in relation to delays and the consumer experience, as well as the broader legal question at stake?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

Lord Ericht, do you want to come in on that, too?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful.

I have a question about the different regulatory regimes and the proposal to split the regulators. Last week, we heard from the Law Society that such a split is not appropriate. Do you or the senators have a view on that and on whether you consider it to be the Law Society’s decision?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

No, I mean the two different types of regulators—categories 1 and 2.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

I suppose that there is a point about who oversees the overseer. I wonder whether that is the root of some of what the Roberton report was trying to get at. You have made the case clearly that what is proposed is inappropriate. We have Esther Roberton coming in next, so we can ask her about that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Maggie Chapman

You talked about a legal standards board. Would you see that as the equivalent to the Legal Services Board in England?