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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much. That is very helpful.

I will kick off with some questions about a couple of points that you have raised. You talked about the spotlights and the shift from being reactive and doing reactive policy analysis to being more proactive. How did you determine the top priorities? How does that feed into the next strategic plan?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Yes, that makes sense.

I come back to Paul O’Kane.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, Jim, and I thank Jan, Claire and Shelley, too. It has been an interesting discussion. We really appreciate your time and your thoughts this morning.

That ends the public part of the meeting. Thank you very much, everyone.

10:52 Meeting continued in private until 11:04.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Would instances of that happening be recorded?

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for that. Things will change over the operation of the plan, as society changes, so it would be useful to have on-going monitoring and evaluation of the policy.

I also want to ask about the searching of prisoners and visitors. The policy refers to the searching of visitors. When do you envisage that that would be necessary? When might a visitor be searched by a member of prison staff of a different gender from that of the visitor?

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good afternoon, and thank you for being here. I have a quick follow-up to Fulton MacGregor’s question. Will there be an opportunity to scrutinise or have a look at the guidance that you mentioned before it comes into operation, if that makes sense?

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Okay—thank you.

I have a couple of other questions. The first, which is on data, is a follow-up to Rona Mackay’s question. You indicated that you will take a snapshot sample to see how decisions have been made in order to ensure consistency. Given the numbers involved, would it not be better to take an overall look at all the data across the whole estate, to better understand not only the consistency of the policy’s application but the impacts on trans prisoners and other prisoners, and to do so on a regular basis, instead of just taking a snapshot after a year?

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

My final question follows on from earlier questions. If a transgender prisoner is convicted of a crime that has absolutely nothing to do with violence of a sexual or other nature, what is the process for deciding which estate they will be sent to?

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Yes.

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you—that was helpful.