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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Given the expected increase in unemployment, the loss of the flexible workplace development fund for upskilling workers seems counter-intuitive. Given what we are hearing across different sectors about the need for skills training and upskilling, where do you see those gaps being plugged in the decisions that you have made?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

The flexible workforce development fund drew on the apprenticeship levies. If the levies are not being used for that fund, to where are they being directed to support employability?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for that offer of on-going engagement on the impacts of the decisions.

As you said at the start of the meeting, the desire is to have equality, opportunity and community at the heart of all Government decisions. Those missions and challenges cut across portfolios. How have the conversations and the budget discussions that you have had with the Deputy First Minister and others gone? Are you able to talk about the impact of the employability cuts on, for instance, black and minority ethnic people? Perhaps I am putting on my equalities committee hat, but, if we are thinking about equalities across the board—equality of opportunity and fundamental equality, as the missions state—how are we tracking the impact of decisions now, never mind further down the line? What assessment have you made of the impacts of previous decisions and how has that informed current decisions?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

I might come back in later, but I will leave it there for now.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

I really appreciate the comments of the panel so far this morning.

You have all touched on the importance of accountability and I want to delve into that in a little bit more detail. You have said that it is sometimes difficult to follow the money, and the convener made a comment there about issues with siloing. Could you give us your views on the links that you see or do not see within the budget documentation and process, the links to programme for Government asks and, importantly, the national performance framework? Are we closing the gaps? Are there clear lines of accountability at different levels of government? I will go to Heather Williams first.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

There is some work to do by looking back and understanding so that we can focus and make those links. I will leave it there.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

I suppose that, as we look ahead to human rights legislation, that link between funding and outcome and impact will be even more important. Angela O’Hagan wants to come in on this.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks, Angela. I might come back on a couple of points, but I know that Clare Gallagher wants to come in.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 (Tourism and Hospitality)

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

You talked about the Fair Work Convention work that you are all contributing to in different ways. What is your sense of how industrial relations are across your sectors and your members?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 (Tourism and Hospitality)

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, panel. Thank you for being with us this morning.

I want to follow on from Evelyn Tweed’s line of questioning. We have talked about lots of issues that affect the workforce and the attractiveness of the sectors, such as payment of the living wage, skills, training, immigration issues, housing and transport.

Marc Crothall, you have spoken about—including in your submission to the committee—making the sector more attractive, and you have said that you have the fastest acceleration to payment of the real living wage. Given that hospitality and tourism are the lowest-paid sectors in our economy, does there need to be greater emphasis on pay? Would that help with the shortages that you have described? Are those shortages across the board in different types of jobs or are they in specific areas in the sector? On the question of the real living wage, my view is that it should not be something that we should aspire to; it should be taken for granted.