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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 October 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

We have had a conversation about whole-life costing, and there is something about whole-life accounting and the benefits and disbenefits that are associated with that. Is there anything that you want to say on some of the social issues? There is a duty around tackling inequality and gender pay gaps and those kinds of things. Again, is that a data thing? Is it about not necessarily having the information to track that data through supply chains and products?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Can I interrupt you on that point? Would it be inappropriate to have those standards in Scotland alone, because we do not deal only with Scottish produce and Scottish supply chains, so we would need to look further afield and have comparability?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

There was a lot in that answer, and I could pick up on lots of things that you said. However, I have a final question. How can front-line staff influence decisions about goods and products that are part of procurement plans and agreements? Is there an effective mechanism for front-line staff to influence decisions about goods and services? They are the people who make the services work, and they use the goods themselves. Are those decisions usually taken at higher-up levels? Is there a mismatch there? Is there a gap?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning. Thank you for joining us this morning and for your opening remarks. I want to explore in a little more detail two issues on stigma—how we tackle it and the complexities around it. Gabrielle King and Bridie Howe, both of you have spoken about rural and other inequalities. What data do we have on the inequalities related specifically to stigma that might indicate that we need different approaches to tackling it in different communities?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much, Claudia. Perhaps I can bring Bridie Howe into this discussion. How does stigma play out with regard to the rural and geographical inequalities that you have highlighted?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

I could go on, but I will come back in later if I have anything else to ask.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning. I thank you for joining us and for what you have said so far.

I want to delve a little deeper into stigma and how we tackle it. You all work within healthcare and work directly with colleagues in the national health service or associated professionals. What challenges, barriers and issues around stigma in health and social care do you see in your daily work? How can we unpick some of that?

As Dan Clutterbuck and others have said, for 20 to 30 years things have not changed as we might have wished them to change. There is something cultural there and, obviously, there is something structural within the profession, too. How do you envisage that changing? What do we need to change in the health and social care profession?

I will start with Dan Clutterbuck.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

I will come to Daniela Brawley next. Dan Clutterbuck mentioned the training materials and resources that NHS Grampian has developed. Can you say something about how they are used? If you have an evaluation, can you say whether they have been successful in tackling stigma within the profession?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks for that, Daniela.

I will come to Kirsty Roy. With regard to your public health role, how is stigma best tackled in terms of connection to communities and the professionals who work in communities?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

I will come to Nicky Coia. From your experience, and given the contact that you have had in working with so many different groups of medical and healthcare professionals around the country, what do you think would work that we are not doing, that we have not thought about, or for which we do not have a well-worked plan? On what Dan Clutterbuck has outlined, perhaps we just need the resources now. What are we missing in tackling stigma?