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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2024
Maggie Chapman
I have a final quick question. What is your view on the ask for gender equality to be included in one of the national outcomes in order to bring us in line with the sustainable development goals—in particular, SDG 5—and international best practice?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2024
Maggie Chapman
I will elaborate a little bit. We are talking about how we ensure equalities understanding across different Government departments, strategies and ways of working. However, certain data sets are not incorporated into the national outcomes, including data relating to issues such as homelessness and fuel poverty, which, when they go wrong, have fundamental human rights implications. Given the absence of data integration, what do you need in order to be able to meet those outcomes?
There is also an issue about the failure to connect the dots and the need for transparency and understanding, so that people are not making a decision relating to one area that they know will have an effect on another area but are not telling anyone about that.
I am trying to understand the minister’s sense of how we are using the data sets that we have, given the structures of the national outcomes, the NPF, SDGs and all of that.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2024
Maggie Chapman
Good morning, minister, and thank you for joining us. I have a couple of questions on some of the bigger-picture stuff that you highlighted when you talked about the embedding of equalities and human rights across the Government’s decision-making. Last week and previously, we heard about some of the disconnect between how we understand the national outcomes and their relationships to national performance framework structures and the sustainable development goals. What work is under way to ensure that we connect those different processes, tools and frameworks? Part of that question is: do we have the data?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Maggie Chapman
Good morning to you both. Thank you for joining us this morning; I am sorry that I am not in the room with you. My question follows on from the previous ones. A couple of years ago, the Scottish Government committed to a very clear approach that linked policy development more effectively with budget decisions and vice versa, and to longer-term financial planning. We know that the most effective place to ensure that the views of those with lived experience are considered is in portfolio, while the policies are being developed, rather than after the fact.
Alison Hosie, I will come to you first. Do you get a sense that there has been that recognition and that policy development and budget decisions are better linked? That was one of EHRBAG’s recommendations. There have been challenges, which you have outlined. Will you say a little bit more about whether you think that the Scottish Government is making progress on those commitments?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Maggie Chapman
Alison Hosie, do you want to come back in on that quickly?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Maggie Chapman
That very much chimes with evidence that we heard last year in our budget work around policy coherence, and with what we heard from the earlier panel this morning. Do you think there is an understanding of the importance of that coherence work across the piece? You talked about shorter and longer-term impacts and unforeseen consequences. Do you think there is that understanding of how things work together? Do the national outcomes perhaps provide a framework whereby we can start looking at whole-picture things rather than the silos and compartmentalised decision making that we have seen?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Maggie Chapman
Sara Cowan, I will come to you with a similar question. Where is progress on the specific recommendations around impact assessments and awareness-raising of those issues?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Maggie Chapman
Thanks, folks. I will leave it there.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Maggie Chapman
I will pick up on one point and explore it a bit further. You talked about some of the ambitions. A lot of hope from across civil society and different sectors was pinned on the human rights legislation. Given that we seem to have lost that galvanising force because the legislation is not being brought forward, how do you see human rights in the NPF? What are the risks for the framework and for actually tackling equalities and human rights injustices?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Maggie Chapman
I come to Catherine Murphy with a similar question. Given policy coherence failures, how well equipped is the NPF to tackle inequalities?