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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

I have a similar question for Craig Fergusson. Within the community wealth building framework and the pillars that you talked about, do you find it challenging to track the social, environmental and other outcomes of your procurement spend? What other barriers prevent us from getting the social or environmental outcomes that we might wish to get, given the current procurement set-up?

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

On your last point about targets and about identifying the social or environmental impacts that we want to see, should those come from national or local government, should they be community led, or should there be a mixture?

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

That cultural buy-in is important.

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

I think that there might be a role for tech innovation there somewhere, but I am not quite sure what that would involve. I will leave that for now.

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

I suppose that you are suggesting that having students and staff campaigning for things inside universities sometimes makes a difference to procurement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Rob Mustard or Joe Rowan, do you have anything to add?

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning. Thank you for joining us this and for your contributions so far.

I want to extend the conversation to look at how we can better use procurement to deliver the social and other policy outcomes that we might wish to deliver. Fair work and gender pay have already been mentioned. Melanie Mackenzie, in response to the convener’s first question, talked about the considerations that you would give to environmental and fair work issues, for example. Will you say a bit more about that and how you balance the regulatory and legislative requirements of procurement with those policy objectives?

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Do you pull demographic and socioeconomic data into that decision-making process at the local level?

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. That is helpful.

Lynette Robertson mentioned gender inequality issues. Is procurement a vehicle for tackling social inequalities? What are the barriers to doing that? What do we need to do better?

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

The monitoring system that you have talked about comes with a not-insignificant overhead. Are there economies of scale that we might consider, if not across the whole of Scotland then at least regionally, in understanding what kinds of monitoring, data collection and evaluation are required, or does monitoring have to carried out on an authority-by-authority basis, given local variation and specificities?