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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

I understand what you are saying about the people who will no longer have roles, but I am talking about the people who will. I imagine that the jobs will be slightly different. What skills and training will be in place for them for that, and to allow them to do the jobs that they want to do?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for that.

One of the elements of the work that the future industry board is doing now, which I presume will feed into the just transition plan, is around skills and the upskilling and reskilling shifts that are required. There was an expectation that there would be very clear shared responsibility—that is probably the kindest way in which I can put it—among the Scottish Government, the council, the joint venture and possibly others to secure the upskilling, reskilling and retraining that will be needed not only for the current employees who are retained but for supply chain workers, too.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, Susie. That is really helpful.

Earlier, Iain Hardie said that this is the just transition in action. Those were his words. It goes to the business, employees and supply chain issues that we need to deal with. However, I have a little bit of anxiety about that. There can be an industry shift or change, which we are anticipating, from a refinery to an import hub. Although that is a change, it does not necessarily speak to the just transition. It is a transition in that it is a change.

In response to a question from the convener, you said that this clearly will be part of the just transition plan. I appreciate that the plan is still being worked up and has yet to be published, but how will we ensure that there is not just a shift, so that we are not just saying, “Okay, we will retain jobs. Maybe we will have a few more jobs over here and over here”? Rather, we should be talking about the transition as a whole, which involves more than a shift from one kind of industrial process to another. There are social elements, as well as the economic and industrial elements.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

In your opening remarks, you talked about the relationship that the airport has with Ayrshire College and about the skills development through that. Will you say a little bit more about that and how you see it as being central to the broader objectives for the airport’s future that we have been talking about this morning?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

My question follows on from one of Kevin Stewart’s lines of questioning and is about the medium-term strategic outlook for the airport.

The Scottish Government considers the airport to be a strategic infrastructure asset and the decision taken to save jobs 10 years ago is noted, but I have a question about the relationship between the Government’s ownership of the airport and its ability to deliver on strategic priorities such as business diversification, net zero or any of the other issues mentioned by the earlier witnesses. If there was a transfer of ownership, or if the airport was released back to the private sector, there would not necessarily be the same potential to apply conditions or to focus on certain elements of those strategic objectives. Can you say a little about your assessment of the likelihood of Prestwick becoming the kind of airport that you think it ought to be and about how that might be different under private sector, as opposed to Government, ownership?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning. Thank you for joining us.

My first cluster of questions is on the environmental impact and net zero. Forsyth Black’s opening comments mentioned activities and progress in relation to net zero and reducing emissions in the airport’s operations. I want to think about the environmental impact beyond carbon emissions. How do you measure and assess your impact on the airport’s immediate environment? I am talking about impacts other than carbon emissions.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

I understand the opportunities. It seems as if you are ready to take advantage of them, if they materialise.

My final question is on a different topic. Audit Scotland recommended the development of a clear exit strategy for public investment in the airport. How are you assessing and measuring value for money in the investment of public money?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

I am asking you about your assessment of your non-carbon environmental impact. How do you measure, monitor and mitigate that impact? As you have told us, you have a substantial site of more than 800 acres to manage, so how are you measuring your broader environmental impact in the area where you are?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Glasgow Prestwick Airport

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

What about light and noise pollution?