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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning and thank you for joining us this morning. I want to continue the line of questioning on jobs, workforce planning and what you anticipate happening, not just over the 18 months but beyond that. You have talked about the reduction in jobs that is likely to happen as the site shifts from refinery to import hub. I am interested in the relationship between that and the biorefinery for the future, which you have spoken about. An estimated 50,000 jobs would be generated under the plans for the green freeport. If there is to be a reduction to roughly 100 jobs with the import hub—and you mentioned a need for 50 jobs to decommission existing infrastructure—how would that play into the broader, astonishing, increase in job numbers for the site, or for the area, in relation to the freeport?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

What skills and retraining are required for the jobs that you anticipate will continue to exist at the import hub? What professional changes will be required for the employees that you currently have? How will you support them through that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

In another line of questioning, Colin Beattie asked about the supply chain and indirect jobs. Do you see a role for your business in supporting any reskilling, upskilling or retraining for supply chain contractors and others, or is that their business?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay. I might have a couple of other questions later.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

My final question is on a slightly different point. I am not thinking about jobs and employees necessarily, but what engagement have you had or are you planning to have with the community around the site? There will obviously be an impact on it with the work that needs to happen over the next 18 months. I do not know, but the site could then have a very different kind of impact on them. The import business will be quite different from the refinery business in terms of the consequences for and the impact on the immediate and not-so-immediate communities, residents and small businesses.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

I will just press you on that. You say that those discussions have started. What form have discussions with the community taken? What have they been to date, if they have started already? Are you using just the formal consultee mechanisms through community councils and that kind of thing, or are you looking at broader strategies of engagement?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

Do you expect the 18 months of work that you are at day 1 of to have a negative impact on the community as operations shift during those 18 months?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

So there is not a direct link with workforce planning beyond the shift to an import hub.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, cabinet secretary, and thank you for being here this morning.

In questioning the previous panel, Colin Smyth and I tried to understand a little bit more about the impact on jobs. I take what you say about the figure of 400 being an estimate; it is not certain yet. However, I found it quite concerning that no analysis seems to have been done and no thought seems to have been given to understand the consequences for the supply chain with regard to the indirect jobs at the refinery. I know that that is only one element of the work that happens at Grangemouth, but—we did not go into this in any detail this morning—the other operations will still involve indirect supply chain work, contractors and that type of thing.

What assessment has the Scottish Government done or what assessment is it planning to do? That feeds into the just transition plan as well. We have heard suggestions that 50,000 jobs could be created in relation to the freeport proposal. Obviously, not all of them would be at Grangemouth or related to the refinery.

What is your understanding of the data that we have and the data that we need, and the plans to understand the consequences for supply chain jobs? We did not get any information on that earlier.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Maggie Chapman

Can you say a bit more about that?