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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

You talk about pay and inflation being the assumed pressures, given the figure that you have from the SCTS. I appreciate that it is the SCTS’s figure and its methodology. In the Scottish court fees 2024-25 consultation document, there is an analysis of inflationary pressures, and other than one year when the fee increase was more than 10 per cent, all the increases are under 10 per cent. What is the rationale for the 20 per cent increase for some court fees?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

I will not repeat what I said, but I flag to colleagues that the main reason given for the changes is inflationary pressures. We have heard, in response to questions earlier, that the Government is looking for an average increase of about 13 per cent in court fees. However, let us not forget that, as the minister outlined, there have already been increases—3 per cent in 2022, 3 per cent in 2023 and 2 per cent this year in April—so it is not as if it is starting from 0 per cent. We need to take that into consideration.

On that basis, the increases are out of line with what is appropriate—never mind my earlier point that I do not believe that full-cost recovery in the justice system is an appropriate approach. Justice should be universally available and not just for those with the ability to pay. I press my motion.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

For the next votes, put your hand closer to your face.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Human Rights (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. I will open up with a comment and then a question. In your opening statement, you referenced the human rights sector’s anger and frustration, and you said that you want to continue to work with the sector as work on the bill progresses, with its potential introduction in session 7. Given that the engagement and work with stakeholders have gone on for a long time—nearly 10 years—one of their frustrations is about how they were informed that the bill would not be introduced in this parliamentary session. Why did you choose to tell some stakeholders about the bill’s delay via correspondence, very close to the programme for government’s publication? Most stakeholders heard about the delay only because the bill was not included in the programme for government, so how can you rebuild trust with them?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Human Rights (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Before I bring in Paul O’Kane, I want to follow up on Elena Whitham’s second question, about the specific issues that people were expecting to be able to talk about and deal with, although that is perhaps putting it too simplistically. When Parliament considered the bill that became the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Act 2022 earlier in the session, there was some discussion about the right to food. We were told to hold off on that aspect, however, as it would be addressed in a human rights bill.

Similarly, in going through and coming out of Covid, we have heard a lot about how disabled people have not had their rights upheld in so many different areas of life, and a lot was being pinned on the proposed human rights bill.

What can we say to stakeholders and to citizens who were pinning a lot of hope on that bill, given 18 months of what they might see as inaction?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Human Rights (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Okay. Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Human Rights (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks, Paul. I call Marie McNair.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Human Rights (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for joining us this morning.

We had conversations with the previous panel of stakeholders about the difference that human rights legislation can make to communities and to individuals. I am interested in your views on the difference that a bill in this space—human rights incorporation into Scots law—will make to people’s lives. I suppose that part of the question is to ask where—within the current landscape of policy design, legislation and all of that—you see gaps or failures of the system to deal with issues that people have around realising their rights. Alan Miller, I will start with you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Human Rights (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

May I unpick that a little bit and maybe broaden it out? You are saying that without accountability people would not have the legal right to health, which seems like a pretty stark statement. We are in the 21st century in a country that says that it takes the human rights of its citizens and all who live here seriously, so where are the gaps in the legislative landscape or the policy landscape? Are they around accountability? Are they around implementation? Are they around design? How have we got things so wrong for the people whom the charter that you have spoken of is designed to help, and for other people including disabled people, people of colour and other groups of people whose rights have not been realised?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Human Rights (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful. Katie, can I come to you?