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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 May 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks, Suzi. Jamie, perhaps I can ask you the same question. How do you view the potential for dealing with overlap and duplication, notwithstanding what Suzi Martin has said about the gaping holes in provision?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

That is interesting. You have all described and the committee heard earlier this morning and previously the failures of commissioners, other structures, support organisations and Governments to deal with some of the inequalities—you talked about the abuse, discrimination and continued injustices that disabled people face. Given all that, you therefore think that this focus—this office, person or resource—would be really instrumental in transforming that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

It is easy to get channelled into a particular form of communication and to miss much of what else is going on.

I could go on, but I know that the convener wants to move on. Thank you all.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks, Lyn. That is very clear.

Tressa Burke spoke very powerfully and said that disabled people are betting on the commissioner. How do you see the potential overlap or duplication of effort, and the complication in respect of which route a disabled person who is looking for a remedy goes down? Would they go to the SHRC, the disability commissioner or the EHRC? Where would they go? How do you see all that working out?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you—that was very clear.

Jenny, I am interested in the answer that you gave to the convener’s earlier question on the breadth of the role that the commissioner could and, arguably, should cover. How would one organisation, or one commissioner with a commission behind them, deal with the complexities and the variation across the range of needs and requirements that disabled people have, given the overlaps in the landscape and the issues that we have touched on?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

That is very clear. Thank you. I will move on to Heather Fisken. I have a similar question for you, Heather, about the duplication and overlap of potential mandates and powers and how you see that working out.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning and thank you all for joining us and for your comments so far.

Alice Struthers talked about the cluttered landscape and the potential confusion for people, which we have heard about in previous sessions. If a disabled person is not able to realise their rights and wants to go to somebody to seek redress, would they go to the Scottish Human Rights Commission, the Equality and Human Rights Commission or the disability commissioner? What are your views on that cluttered landscape and the different commissioners potentially working alongside one another, with overlapping or maybe duplicated mandates? How do you see that working out?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks. Eddie McConnell, I will come to you with the same kind of question. How do we deal with the potential problems and confusions around that duplication of work and mandate and the overlap that might result if the decision is made to go ahead with a disability commissioner?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Okay—I will leave it there.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Okay. Thank you. Do you see any potential issues with the possible market distortion that Murdo Fraser alluded to?