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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

It is important that we are clear on that, because there has been quite a lot of communication going to the university community, saying, “This is what is happening,” but not, “Come and tell us what you think about how we can work together on that.” That has been one of the fundamental problems over the past 11 months. There has been some communication to the university community, which in some cases has been very poor, but it has always been one-directional. I think that that is part of the reason for the lack of trust and the issues of morale that this committee has talked about for months now.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

This is my final area of questioning. We have been in this situation for nearly 11 months, and there have been fits and starts of discussions between the SFC and the university, as well as discussions around this committee’s table. Given that the SFC’s responsibilities range from teaching, learning and research to student support and participation, how do you see those different elements being prioritised in conversations with the university about the long-term financial sustainability of the institution?

I will explain what I mean by that. Finances were the bottom line in the financial recovery plan of six and a half or seven months ago. How have we moved beyond that?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful—thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

That was going to be my follow-up question. What is your engagement with Universities Scotland?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

In response to one of Willie Rennie’s questions, you said that one of the three conditions in the letter that the SFC sent to the university was about engagement with staff and students—the university should ensure that staff and students are properly engaged in the current situation and in the creation of the long-term plan that will ensure the financial and on-going sustainability of the institution. What does good engagement look like to you?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

Are you frustrated that we are where we are, 11 months on?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

Mention has been made of the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill. Are there mechanisms in that bill that would give you the ability to act sooner so that, if such a situation were to happen again anywhere—we do not want it to—we would not still be, 11 months down the line, without a plan or a clear vision of the way forward?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

Do you have confidence in the current governance and management arrangements at the University of Dundee?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

What about governance?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for letting me in, convener.

Good morning. I have a couple of questions, but, before I ask them, I want to put on record what is stated in my entry in the register of interests: I am rector of the University of Dundee and I sit on the university court. Because of that, I will be careful in what I ask and how I ask it.

Following on from the question that Pam Duncan-Glancy has just asked, given that we have had 11 months of this at the University of Dundee—Willie Rennie expressed his frustration at how things have or have not happened over that time—concern is being expressed that the unique situation there might be used as a political football in the broader higher education funding debate. How does the SFC respond to that particular point? How will you ensure that the unique situation at Dundee does not creep into the wider discussion about HE funding?