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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 May 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

I appreciate what you say, but at no point in the past three years has inflation approached 20 per cent. Even if the fees are lower in absolute terms, it is a pretty steep increase. I do not see evidence for that increase. The consultation document talks about CPI being 5.4 per cent last year and 0.6 per cent this year, and the retail prices index being 8.1 per cent last year and 1.2 per cent this year—those are the Scottish Government’s figures in its consultation document. Given that we have already had a 2 per cent rise this year, I do not see how we can justify a 20 per cent in-year increase.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

I have a final question—well, maybe it is a statement rather than a question. Last week, we were told by people who support citizens who are seeking justice that quite a lot of them fall through the cracks of legal aid. You said that, if people are struggling, they will be covered by legal aid, but they are often not covered by legal aid, either because the professionals do not exist in areas where they are needed or because people need to travel to find that legal aid support. Therefore, I am sorry, but I simply do not agree that legal aid provides the cushion that you have claimed that it does, given how patchy access to legal aid is across Scotland.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Okay. I will leave it there.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Convener, that is a direct question to me. Do you want me to answer?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Okay.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

I will not say anything further.

Motion moved,

That the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee recommends that the Sheriff Appeal Court Fees Order 2024 (SSI 2024/236) be annulled.—[Maggie Chapman]

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, and welcome to the 21st meeting of 2024, in session 6, of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee.

We have apologies from Evelyn Tweed. I therefore welcome to the meeting Elena Whitham, who is attending our meeting remotely as Evelyn’s substitute. You are very welcome, Elena.

Our first agenda item is to invite Elena Whitham to declare any relevant items of interest.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Our second agenda item is to agree whether to take item 11, which is consideration of today’s evidence on the human rights (Scotland) bill, in private. Do we agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Human Rights (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Our third item is an evidence session on the delayed human rights (Scotland) bill. I welcome to the meeting Shirley-Anne Somerville, Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, who is accompanied by supporting Scottish Government officials Kavita Chetty, deputy director of human rights and mainstreaming, and Trevor Owen, head of the human rights strategy and legislation unit. Thank you for joining us this morning.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2, and invite the cabinet secretary to make a brief opening statement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Human Rights (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Annie Wells wants to come in to make a similar point.