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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 October 2025
Maggie Chapman
Thanks, Louise. That is really helpful. My final question is to any panel member. You have all said in different ways that we do not have evidence of high numbers of withdrawals in the process as it currently works. That could be because of a lack of awareness, stigmatisation or because not withdrawing is the path of least resistance, to use Gavin Yates’s phrase. Should we be gathering and monitoring data on withdrawals? The approach feels quite piecemeal; there is no requirement to record the number of withdrawals and there is no formal data gathering by local authorities. What are your views on whether we should have a clearer data-driven understanding of this? Alternatively, does data not have a role in something like this?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 October 2025
Maggie Chapman
Louise Church, is there anything else that you want to add about how things are working at the moment or how we record information?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 October 2025
Maggie Chapman
Okay. Thanks, folks—I will leave my questions there.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Maggie Chapman
You talk about feedback and consultation, but I see those as being quite different from engagement. I see engagement as being much more co-productive. It involves having conversations that are not about discussing something that is already predetermined by university management or—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Maggie Chapman
It is important that we are clear on that, because there has been quite a lot of communication going to the university community, saying, “This is what is happening,” but not, “Come and tell us what you think about how we can work together on that.” That has been one of the fundamental problems over the past 11 months. There has been some communication to the university community, which in some cases has been very poor, but it has always been one-directional. I think that that is part of the reason for the lack of trust and the issues of morale that this committee has talked about for months now.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Maggie Chapman
This is my final area of questioning. We have been in this situation for nearly 11 months, and there have been fits and starts of discussions between the SFC and the university, as well as discussions around this committee’s table. Given that the SFC’s responsibilities range from teaching, learning and research to student support and participation, how do you see those different elements being prioritised in conversations with the university about the long-term financial sustainability of the institution?
I will explain what I mean by that. Finances were the bottom line in the financial recovery plan of six and a half or seven months ago. How have we moved beyond that?
10:15Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Maggie Chapman
That is helpful—thank you.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Maggie Chapman
That was going to be my follow-up question. What is your engagement with Universities Scotland?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Maggie Chapman
In response to one of Willie Rennie’s questions, you said that one of the three conditions in the letter that the SFC sent to the university was about engagement with staff and students—the university should ensure that staff and students are properly engaged in the current situation and in the creation of the long-term plan that will ensure the financial and on-going sustainability of the institution. What does good engagement look like to you?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 1 October 2025
Maggie Chapman
Are you frustrated that we are where we are, 11 months on?