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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 October 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you; that was helpful.

In earlier remarks there was mention of support for the World Health Organization’s reclassification of gender dysphoria. Will you say a bit more about that and why your network has come to the position that it is in on the issue?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

I accept that you might not be able to answer this, but I am curious to know about the relationship that trans people whom the clinic supports have with the process of medicalisation that diagnosis determines or requires. Does that come up in your conversations?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Good morning and thank you to the witnesses for joining us and for your opening statements and the other information that some of you provided.

I will explore two areas: first, the case for change or the need for gender recognition reform at all; and, secondly, questions around gender dysphoria diagnosis and the panel that has been associated with that process.

Sharon Cowan, I will come to you first. In your opening remarks, you talked about the views among the trans people that you speak to shifting, in the past five years, from Scotland being a great place to live to that not being the case. How do you see that as being linked—or otherwise—not so much to the discussions around this bill, on which there have already been two consultations, but to the need for change and for something that is within the current GRA to be different?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

There are protections for that accordingly.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

I know that my colleagues around the table will come back on certain points that you made in that answer.

I will turn to Karon Monaghan. I listened to your opening remarks and I am interested in your thoughts on the medicalisation process. Do you agree that medicalisation of gender dysphoria is problematic and do you see the shift away from requiring that diagnosis as necessary?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

I note the evidence that you gave in Westminster in February 2021 when you said very similar things. When you talk about gatekeeping and safeguards, what kinds of things do you have in mind?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

In previous sessions, a parallel was drawn with the inclusion of homosexuality in the DSM—the “Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders”. Do you agree that there is a parallel? If you do not want to comment on that, that is fine. I appreciate that the subject is difficult.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

Thank you; that is helpful.

Naomi Cunningham, I have a similar question about your views on the case for change, if you view that there is one. In your opening comments, you talked about that larger group of people being potentially eligible. What is your view on whether reform is necessary?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Maggie Chapman

One issue in relation to the panel requiring evidence to be submitted to prove that you are who you say you are is that the process is intrusive. Surely trans people deserve privacy, too.