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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 March 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, Debbie. Rachel, do you want to come in on this?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Maggie Chapman

Thanks very much for that, Kabie. I do not know if you could see, but there were a lot of people around the table nodding as you were speaking. What you were saying clearly speaks to other people’s experiences as well.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Maggie Chapman

I will hand back to the convener now but I thank you all for your answers to that question.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to you both. Thank you for being here today and for the detail in your report.

I am interested in a couple of different areas, one of which is diagnosis and its value. We have heard clear evidence that shows that having some kind of diagnosis of neurodivergence, whether that is of autism or ADHD, gives people something from which to work; it is validating and gives them something that they can explain to people. That leads me to two questions: how can we ensure that people without a diagnosis are still supported, and what can be done about the long waiting times for any kind of medical assessment? Some people are waiting years for a diagnosis. Those are two quite different questions, but I would be interested to hear your thoughts about how we can deal with the issue of validation through diagnosis.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Maggie Chapman

Thanks for that, Kabie, and apologies for getting your name wrong.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Maggie Chapman

Rachel, you wanted to come back in.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Maggie Chapman

I will pick up on the second example that you gave. Clearly, in that case, a diagnosis was essential to opening up care packages. I am not at all trying to downplay the importance of getting a diagnosis, but should an assessment of need for a care package depend on a diagnosis? Given that these are straitened times with limited resources, a diagnosis might be what gets people to the top of the pile, as it were, but could we do things differently by taking a whole-system approach so that getting somebody the care that they need does not rely on a diagnosis?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Maggie Chapman

Thanks to both of you—that is helpful. You talked about meeting needs when they arise. Some children go on to the waiting list as teenagers and, if current waiting times are sustained, they will be in their 20s when they get to the top of it, so they will no longer be eligible for that service. Given the long waiting lists and the significant amount of time that is involved, do you have any suggestions for the short, medium and longer-term steps that we need to consider? I will add a little to that. We are looking at a needs-based, whole-family approach that breaks down some of the departmental barriers and silos that exist. How do you see the work that we are doing around this table over the next few weeks supporting that approach? That was a big question.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Maggie Chapman

Your comments—especially your point about the fact that inclusion is good for everyone, regardless of diagnosis or condition—provide a helpful foundation for the rest of our inquiry. We need to hold on to that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 13 January 2026

Maggie Chapman

There is a general understanding that that is what we should be doing, but, specifically, how do you see fostering good relations linking to budgetary conversations?