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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 October 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Maggie Chapman

Linked to that, just as hotels might be targeted by traffickers and people who want to exploit vulnerable asylum seekers, might they be targeted by far-right extremists, too? We have seen what happened in Erskine, for instance. Do you have concerns about that sort of thing arising from the prolonged and extended use of hotels?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for that. You paint a pretty bleak picture. Are you concerned that as hotels become institutionalised and start to be used for long periods—months, if not years—that issue will be exacerbated in some areas?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thanks very much for that, Bronagh. It does.

My next questions are for Police Scotland. I am not sure whether Claire Dobson or Elaine Tomlinson will want to take them, but they are also about the partnership working and multi-agency engagement that Bronagh Andrew talked about and which you mentioned, too.

How is your engagement with Mears? What notice does it give you when hotels start to be used for asylum seekers? How would you describe your partnership working or your relationship with Mears?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Maggie Chapman

I can imagine. Thank you for the candour in your response. One of our challenges is getting that balance. We have already discussed the tensions between the different approaches to support from the various Governments, and the different layers involved, so hearing that is helpful. I will leave it there, as I am mindful of time.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Maggie Chapman

If you would, Elaine. I am particularly interested in hearing about the hotel connection and the information that you need in that respect.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Maggie Chapman

May I explore that point a little more? In our evidence gathering in previous weeks, we have heard about the relationship that councils have to have with the third sector and about the support and other things—it is not just about support; it is about having things to do—that you mentioned. Is there a challenge, particularly for local authorities that are not in the central belt and do not have the same access to the broader ecology of support and activities as those in the central belt do? Is there something particular there that we need to be thinking about when we have Scotland-wide dispersal systems?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, panel. Thank you for joining us and for what you have said so far. I am sorry that I cannot be with you in person today.

I want to explore a couple of issues about the use of hotels and how they support or do not support you in your important, necessary work. I will, if I may, come to Bronagh Andrew first. Bronagh, you mentioned in your opening remarks that one of TARA’s concerns is that hotels provide ready-made places where traffickers can go to target vulnerable people. Can you tell us more about how you have seen that sort of thing function, if you have seen that in Scotland? Given that we are likely to see more hotel use across Scotland, how do you see it changing the nature of your work?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thanks, Thomas.

Gayle Findlay, from your experience of working in COSLA and seeing what is happening across different local authorities, what should we be thinking about doing better or differently to ensure that we get integration between the asylum seekers who are being supported—hopefully—in hotels, and the immediate local communities and the wider local authority area? What are the key challenges or asks that you have?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Maggie Chapman

I have other questions, but I am conscious of time.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Asylum Seekers in Scotland

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Maggie Chapman

My next question is for Savan Qadir. We talk about the importance of integration, and I agree with Pinar Aksu’s point that integration cannot happen if we essentially lock people up in hotels for months on end. In your experience, what capacity has there been to have community discussions that are not forced and controlled but take place in safe spaces where people can come together in a way that allows local residents to engage and work with those who are in hotels? Is that something that you see happening? Does it happen well in some places? Does it happen at all in others?