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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Maggie Chapman
Okay. Thank you.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Maggie Chapman
Thanks, Kaukab. Good morning, Esther. Thank you for joining us. I will follow up your last point about oversight and the final say being different to regulation. Can you unpick what you mean by that?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Maggie Chapman
I appreciate that. Thank you.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Maggie Chapman
I wonder whether the volume of cases is an indication that consumers do not feel confident enough to use the direct route. Perhaps having what might be intermediate routes—or just lower level ones, if that makes sense—would not seem so daunting to consumers. Can you see that as an argument?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Maggie Chapman
Esther Roberton and I worked together when I was rector of the University of Aberdeen and she was senior governor. We are also on Scotland’s Futures Forum together.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Maggie Chapman
One of the Law Society’s contentions is that, if we went down the route of an independent regulator, it would be considerably more expensive. What is your view on that position?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Maggie Chapman
On a similar point, but looking at it from the other angle, the proposal in the bill as it stands—we expect that to change—is that there would be a role for, or accountability or a relationship to, the Scottish ministers. That impinges on the independence of the legal profession.
With a completely independent body, who would oversee the overseer, if that makes sense? There is no opportunity for that role, as we have heard, and the Government has conceded that having ministerial oversight is problematic for a whole range of reasons. Who would oversee the independent regulator?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Maggie Chapman
Good morning to the panel. Thank you for joining us and articulating so clearly the concerns that you have outlined.
Will you unpick a little more your concerns around the proposal to abolish the right of appeal to the Court of Session? What would that do, or what do you perceive that it would do, in relation to delays and the consumer experience, as well as the broader legal question at stake?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Maggie Chapman
Lord Ericht, do you want to come in on that, too?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 28 November 2023
Maggie Chapman
That is helpful.
I have a question about the different regulatory regimes and the proposal to split the regulators. Last week, we heard from the Law Society that such a split is not appropriate. Do you or the senators have a view on that and on whether you consider it to be the Law Society’s decision?