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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
That would be helpful.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
I want to come back in on some of the work that the committee did with the Commission Advocating Rights for Minorities. I come at this from the point of view that social security is there for us all, because poverty damages everyone, not just those it directly affects, and that individuals’ worth should not be measured by their ability to contribute economically to society.
There is a little bit of a disjoint here. Cabinet secretary, the members of CARM whom we engaged with on employability specifically did not recognise either the excellent tagging of employability services or the positive outcomes that you have identified. I appreciate that some people have received those positive outcomes, but CARM members have not, and they feel that there is no evidence that the Scottish Government is meeting its minimum core obligations. I am not so interested in that point for now, but, given the case study approach work that the committee has done and the on-going engagement on employability that we have had with CARM and its members, it does not seem to have featured in the Government’s approach to the budget this year. Could you say more about how the work that the committee has done with CARM has had an impact on decisions that have been made or on some of the restructuring that we were talking about earlier? Where is the throughput of the evidence that the committee gathered?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 February 2026
Maggie Chapman
Thank you.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Maggie Chapman
Does anyone else want to bring in any other mechanisms? I understand the challenge and that you do not want to be responsible for a cut to funding, but what other levers or sticks do we have to ensure that management follows the principles that it is supposed to follow?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Maggie Chapman
This is my last question on this. What important preparatory work needs to be done between now and April 2027 to make sure that, when the principles come in, everybody knows what they are, and they are ready to implement, record and monitor them? Other than proper engagement with the unions, what would be your wishes in this space?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Maggie Chapman
I appreciate that I have had quite a lot of time already, but I would like to pick up on some of the points about the Gillies review.
We have spoken about organisational culture and issues of governance and financial management. If an organisational culture is wrong, all the money you want and the best governance structures will not actually lead to outcomes. The Gillies report highlighted that governance frameworks were fit for purpose but that institutions failed to operate them effectively.
My last question is on culture and value. What are universities for? How do we make sure that the value of education is seen as the core principle that drives everybody, from the very top of the university right through the staff structures and students? How do we ensure that the value of education is what matters? Without that key point from Gillies, we are basically just talking round the houses about the issues. A couple of you have said that we will be back here in three or four years’ time.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Maggie Chapman
Thank you.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Maggie Chapman
I have a couple of follow-up questions on the fair work principles. You have talked about the challenges of implementing the existing principles, never mind the rest when they come in in April next year. Is there a role for the Scottish Funding Council to make funding conditional on proper implementation of the fair work principles? Do you see that as one of the levers or mechanisms to ensure that management takes the principles seriously?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Maggie Chapman
So, there is something there about changing the nature of the engagement entirely. Are there any other comments?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Maggie Chapman
Thank you, convener. Before I start, I remind colleagues of my entry in the register of members’ interests, as I am rector of the University of Dundee. I also send my solidarity to UCU members who are on strike at the University of Dundee today.
My first chunk of questions is about the student experience and the impact of all the uncertainty and culture change on them. Students often have to bear the consequences of cuts and mismanagement, but they are excluded from decision making. Can each of you give us a flavour of the direct impact on students of course closures, loss of staff and rising staff workloads? Are those impacts on students being accounted for or measured in any way? I will start with Dan Cutts.