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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 October 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

I now invite the committee to agree to delegate to me the publication of a short factual report on our deliberations on the affirmative Scottish statutory instrument that we have just considered. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Following on from that point, Tracey Reilly, what are the issues that you have come across in relation to access to services and, where services are available, quality and cost?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thanks for that. Sharon Horwitz wants to raise another point.

11:30  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful. Do Tracey Reilly and Vicky Crichton want to make any last points. No? Okay, we will end there. Thank you all for your comments. That concludes our formal business and we will move into private to consider the last couple of items on the agenda. Thank you.

11:31 Meeting continued in private until 11:39.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much, that is helpful. I know that other members will want to dig into some of those issues in more detail, particularly on ABS and some of the reserved issues.

Vicky Crichton, from your perspective and that of the consumer panel on complaints, what are the barriers or issues that come up most often in relation to access, given the system as it currently is, and what are the likely benefits of the bill?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much for that, minister.

I see that colleagues have no questions or comments, but I have one question that I would like to ask. The instrument makes provision for carer support payments to be disregarded. Is it your expectation that they will always be disregarded by the Scottish Legal Aid Board?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. Your point about the lack of data and of a coherent story is well made.

Sharon Horwitz, I will come to you with a similar question on the barriers and some of the challenges that people currently face. Do you think that the bill will address those challenges?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. Kevin Stewart, I saw your hand but I will bring in Annie Wells first and then I will come to you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay.

We want things in place so that people do not have to use the complaints system, but when they get to the point at which they have to use it, we want it to be robust and effective. How does the consumer panel view the bill’s provisions to extend SLCC’s powers to investigate complaints about unregulated legal services providers? What rigour will that bring to the complaints process?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Agenda item 2 is consideration of an affirmative instrument. For this item, I welcome to the meeting Siobhian Brown, Minister for Victims and Community Safety, and her officials: Shona Urquhart, legal aid policy lead, and Martin Brown, solicitor, legal directorate, Scottish Government. Thank you for joining us this morning—you are all very welcome.

I refer members to paper 1 and invite the minister to say a few words about the instrument.