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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I apologise to the construction industry if I sound like I am demonising it. My question to Ben Macpherson was about where a list would be if it were not in the bill. There could be a strategy on best practice that the industry feeds into—perhaps that would be the best way forward.

I also want to speak about Clare Adamson’s amendment 211, which addresses real safety concerns. We agree that we should be reusing electrical tools and so on as much as possible, but we need to do it in a careful and considered way. Clare Adamson also mentioned lithium batteries for household goods, which are a big concern, especially when they end up in a recycling centre—Jackie Dunbar knows all too well the fire risk in that regard. The issue is wider than lithium batteries for household goods, because we are seeing more batteries for energy storage. That will be a problem, so Clare Adamson’s amendment 211 is very good.

On Bob Doris’s amendments 208 and 209, it is right that we consider the impact of the plans. We need to ensure that there are no unintended consequences on areas such as agriculture.

I completely agree with the intention of Sarah Boyack’s amendment 212, but I have concerns in relation to the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020. I am sure that we will have lots of discussions about the issue in the weeks ahead. Some suppliers are already doing great work on take-back, and I am concerned that the amendment might undermine some of that, although I could be wrong.

I agree with the minister about the issue of extraterritorial—not extraterrestrial—principles that Monica Lennon’s amendment 132 deals with. Once again, I agree with the intention of the amendment but, to make the bill meaningful, we have to ensure that its provisions can be monitored and measured correctly. That might be difficult in relation to that amendment, but I acknowledge that Monica Lennon will take the issue away and consider it further. I will support her in the future if she can put my fears to rest on that issue.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I want to make a couple of points, convener. The first is about construction.

During the evidence sessions, we heard that the amount of waste produced by the construction industry is huge. If we can make an impact on that, we will take huge steps towards reducing waste overall. I understand that that should not be addressed in the bill itself because, as Maurice Golden said, our biggest polluters might change, and it is important to have flexibility. However, I would like to know what is going to be done in that regard.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Will the minister give way?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Will the member take an intervention?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Douglas Lumsden

We heard in our pre-brief that the quality partnerships are not formalised in any way. Is that a good thing? Should they operate more formally?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Douglas Lumsden

A voluntary partnership is when it is not formalised.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Right. I understand that now.

Do we need the order to be agreed to for some of the regions to move to a franchising model, or is that a separate issue?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Douglas Lumsden

In answer to Monica Lennon’s question about how we get more people on to public transport, you said that the Government would do that by whatever means possible, I think. What will that mean for car users?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Will you do that by using a carrot or a stick, or will you use a bit of both?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Douglas Lumsden

If we move to the stick approach, we have to recognise that the car will still be very important to some people in our rural communities. We must ensure that those communities are not penalised by anything that is done.