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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I absolutely agree, but is there not a concern that big distributors, such as Amazon, which you mentioned, will just move their distribution south of the border to get round some of the legislation that you are going to put in place?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Douglas Lumsden

In its letter, COSLA talks about co-production and the Verity house agreement and says that the threat of penalties is not in tune with that agreement. Do you not agree with it that the threat of penalties is not the way of building relationships and having a joint way of working?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Douglas Lumsden

During our evidence sessions, we heard from Orkney Council, which has quite a low recycling rate just now—I think that it is about 22 per cent, or around about that. However, it said that the amount of waste going to landfill was not high, because it has energy from waste, for example. It feels that, if it was to push that higher, it would mean more cost for it and probably be worse for the environment, as it would have to start shipping goods off to be recycled on the mainland, to Aberdeen or wherever.

What would you say to Orkney Council? Does it simply have to reach that higher target, even if it is worse for the environment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 December 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Minister, in relation to the previous questions, we have had discussions with the Office for the Internal Market. Have you had discussions with it, too? It is not part of the UK Government; it is there to advise all Administrations on potential issues relating to the internal market act.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

On the back of the previous question, I would just note what has been said about the just transition plan having not yet been published and the convener’s comment about money having already been committed. Indeed, quite a lot of money has already been spent. How can we get assurance that it is being spent effectively and that it is already feeding into the just transition?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 29 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I was thinking of targets, for example. Is there alignment or divergence across the EU on those?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

Thanks, convener. I think that this is a question for Emma Hallett, first of all.

Some businesses have called for the alignment of UK-wide approaches in these areas. To what extent should we be aligned on this across the United Kingdom, or is this something that the Scottish Government can go it alone on in certain areas?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

So, with things such as coffee cups, we would be looking at not charging for them but banning them altogether.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 November 2023

Douglas Lumsden

As a whole, yes, but also in terms of certain targets and charges—for example, on single-use items—or even potential bans.