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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Thank you, convener, for reminding me. I remind everyone that, at the start of the session, I was a councillor on Aberdeen City Council.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Before we move on, Paul, you mentioned that the engagement was not there at the start of the process but that it has improved. Is that now fixed or could the Government do more to improve engagement as we go through the process?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Dr Walton, I will come to you on the same question, because you mentioned that the previous strategy maybe did not have a set of SMART targets.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Ailsa, do you have anything to add? [Interruption.]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Douglas Lumsden

So, you think that we still have a good way to go with mainstreaming.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Douglas Lumsden

My first question is in two parts. First, do you feel that you have been engaged in the development of the plan and has it been meaningful engagement? Secondly, do you feel that the plan takes into account the potential socioeconomic impacts of the proposed actions? I will ask Caroline Brown to go first, because she is nearest to me, and then we will probably move around the table.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Douglas Lumsden

Would anyone else like to add anything?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Douglas Lumsden

My last question is on mainstreaming, which has been mentioned already. “The People’s Plan for Nature” calls for more mainstreaming of nature into decision making, more leadership and more Government accountability. Does the draft delivery plan provide for more mainstreaming of biodiversity, and what would successful mainstreaming look like? Do you want to pick that up, Bruce?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Douglas Lumsden

I am sure that the first question always takes the longest, convener.

When we heard from the marine stakeholders, there were mixed views, including that many of the targets and actions are not SMART—specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, and time bound—and that the plan lacks significant new commitments in the light of the Government’s commitment to a step change. Are there significant new commitments in the plan relating to terrestrial biodiversity and does it set out SMART targets?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Douglas Lumsden

I want to drill down a bit deeper into the delivery plan. Elspeth Macdonald and Tavish Scott talked about the lack of engagement with the plan. Phil Taylor seemed to suggest that there was quite a lot of engagement, so I will go back to Tavish and Elspeth. Was there not a forum that you could contribute to? Why do you feel that there was a lack of engagement while other people feel that there was enough?