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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I want to pick up on the fact that gas always seems to get the blame for increased electricity bills. Last night, I looked at my own utility bill. The gas price was 6.3p per kilowatt hour. The electricity price was 24.7p per kilowatt hour—almost four times the price of gas. How come gas is making such a big impact on electricity prices when, when I look at my own bill, it appears that electricity is four times the cost of gas?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

In that list of levies, there were contracts for difference, renewables obligation certificates, network costs and balancing—all those things have to be factored in and they make our electricity bills more expensive. I am trying to think about how, in the future, that effect would disappear.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

I guess that it is net zero, not absolute zero.

I am just trying to understand what percentage we are talking about. Is it 1 per cent? Is it 5 per cent? What is the scale of our emissions that that project would remove?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

So, is it correct to say that, whether Acorn goes ahead or not will be irrelevant to meeting our targets over the next two budgets?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

The Acorn project would not account for that 10 per cent. I am just trying to understand how big an impact not having Acorn would make. I do not want to be in a situation in which our Governments in Holyrood and in Westminster play a blame game about why we have not reached our targets. I can imagine that some people will say that that is because we have not made progress on the Acorn project. I am trying to understand whether we can blame that for not meeting our targets, which is why I am trying to understand how much carbon Acorn would remove.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Okay. Thank you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

So, it is a huge increase.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

How much do we have at present? I am just trying to understand how much that figure would have to increase by, because battery storage is a huge concern for many of my constituents right across the north-east of Scotland.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

How much battery storage do you have in that pathway, then?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Douglas Lumsden

Okay, thank you. I have a final question on electricity. Your modelling suggests no new gas plants, even with carbon capture and storage in Scotland going ahead. Will you say a bit about why you have come up with that? Nuclear will be dropping off in the next three years in Scotland, so what will our baseload be and how will we achieve it when the sun is not shining and the wind is not blowing?