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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

There were some reports at the weekend from the Deputy First Minister about the funding that was allocated to the Clyde Gateway regeneration project, which appears to have been a typographical error in the budget. Are there any more errors in the budget that you would like to bring to the committee’s and Parliament’s attention at the moment, or is that an isolated error?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

Do you want to bring any more to our attention?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Michael Marra

Since the budget was announced, the cuts to housing programmes have been commented on. The Fraser of Allander Institute has highlighted that in its work. The affordable housing supply programme is being cut by more than 30 per cent in real terms, on top of a cut of more than 10 per cent last year. The housing support and homelessness budget is down by 5 per cent, and the local government capital budget is down by more than 20 per cent, which is happening at a time when cities are declaring housing emergencies. Dr Sousa, could you pick up on the broader impact of that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Michael Marra

Do you want to respond, Dr Sousa?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Michael Marra

That is not what the cabinet secretary said; she told the Social Justice and Social Security Committee that the fund had

“run its course as a concept.”

It was as though she was saying that it was a failed concept, so there was not a choice. Is that your view? Did the parental employability support fund fail as a concept?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Michael Marra

Yesterday, the First Minister made a speech about the economy and the different choices that he would want to make. He said that if he could marshal £2 billion of capital funding annually—£20 billion over 10 years—he could deliver growth levels similar to those that China experienced in the 1990s. Professor Bell, do you think that that is realistic?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Michael Marra

The point about college infrastructure is a strong one. We could draw a contrast with the university sector, which has the ability to raise finance. Over the longer term, the Scottish Government has drawn the college sector much closer to it. The Government’s regulations and the way that the sector is run result in less flexibility in raising money.

To come back on the convener’s point, I do not think that there has to be a zero-sum game in that regard. There might be alternatives for the college sector to look at different forms of revenue raising and flexibility in the way that it works. We should not just be saying that the overall capital budget should be cut.

Essentially, it comes down to a class issue. Many people who go to colleges are from lower-working-class backgrounds and they have a much poorer experience, in terms of the physical environment, than people who go to university. Traditionally, those people are from more affluent backgrounds, and they are in brand-new buildings. Over the past decade, there has been huge investment in universities across the country, but colleges have not replicated that. There is a fundamental unfairness in that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Michael Marra

That was not the case in the 1990s, when China had double-digit growth rates, which is what the First Minister’s comparison was with. That is what would be required to raise the level of income in this country to the level that the First Minister has suggested.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Michael Marra

The convener highlighted the Government’s three missions. One relates to community. Sustaining public services—particularly in rural areas—requires affordable housing; there is no doubt about that. The mission relating to opportunity is meant to be about a fair, green transition, and we have already heard about fuel efficiency, energy efficiency in housing and growth in the economy. There is also the equality mission, which relates to poverty. The cuts will result in a comprehensive failure in all three missions, will they not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Michael Marra

It just feels very short term to me. You have described previous long-term decisions about poverty and the health of the country, but it feels that much in this budget is about dealing with immediate threats instead of thinking about the long term.

I see you nodding, Professor Bell. Is that your assumption, too?