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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Michael Marra

No—what happens is that ministers indicate what the cap is on the number of students who could be admitted. That is a ministerial decision—ministers speak to the Scottish Funding Council about it and a letter is sent. That is the issue of the number of students. As far as I am aware, the SFC is waiting for an instruction from ministers as to whether there will be less money per student or fewer students. Do we know whether ministers have given that instruction to the SFC? The issue is not a matter of negotiation with the universities; it is one for ministers and the SFC, which works for the ministers.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Michael Marra

That is not what the college sector is telling me.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Michael Marra

You recognise how difficult this budget settlement is for local government at the moment—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Michael Marra

Councillor Hagmann came to Parliament on 16 January and said:

“There were surprises in the budget. One of the lines that we were working on was that there would be no surprises, but that has not been the case.”—[Official Report, Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee, 16 January 2024; c 7.]

You are talking about the basis on which local government had made demands, but you had an agreement with them. This was meant to be a different year, given the Verity house agreement, but that has really just been ditched, has it not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Michael Marra

So, no.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Michael Marra

I am sorry—did you say that there is nothing different?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Michael Marra

I genuinely am not. What I am asking you is whether you are telling the universities to cut the number of students or to cut the amount of money per student. That is not about additional money. I am asking you about the process that you are undertaking with the universities via the Scottish Funding Council.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Michael Marra

I am also asking about the competent operation of the system. At the moment, people are applying for university courses and are being offered a conditional or an unconditional place. The difference is that the teaching budget is to be cut significantly, and the universities that are offering conditional and unconditional places do not know how many places they can offer. That is not usual.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Michael Marra

That is not what I am saying.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Michael Marra

The difference this year was to be that there would be no threats. There was to be no saying, “Take this or we’re going to punish you for it,” but that is exactly what you are doing now.