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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

The position has been described to me not as “normal” or “usual”, Dr Cumming, but as “a shambles”. Far less information is available to the college sector this year than in previous years. As you will understand, budgets are set, courses are advertised and people apply. Those applications are coming in, but colleges do not know whether they can run the courses, because they do not know what their budget is.

College leaders have also said to me that the current situation is “soul-destroying” and that they are “staring into the abyss”—that there is no direction, no leadership, no clarity, no empathy, no solutions and no clue. Deputy First Minister, what would you say to college leaders who tell MSPs that that is the situation?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

There were some reports at the weekend from the Deputy First Minister about the funding that was allocated to the Clyde Gateway regeneration project, which appears to have been a typographical error in the budget. Are there any more errors in the budget that you would like to bring to the committee’s and Parliament’s attention at the moment, or is that an isolated error?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

Do you want to bring any more to our attention?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

I will briefly return to the office-holders. We have had some conversations ahead of an inquiry that we are about to undertake about the capacity of the corporate body to scrutinise them. You have said that significant challenge has been made to the office-holders in the budget process and the bids that they have put in, but does it stretch the capacity of the corporate body to do that work?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

I am reasonably satisfied with those answers and the detail that you have all given today regarding the commissioners and office-holders. It feels to me that adding a further four commissioners to that workload has made it untenable, but I know that we will hear much more on that in our inquiry.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

Can you tell the committee what the budget for further education will be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

One month on, Deputy First Minister, that does not feel very clear. I will quote a very senior member of the college sector, to whom I spoke this week, who said:

“I think we’ve had four or five different figures—flat cash, 8.4 per cent reduction, 4.7 per cent reduction and 1.5 per cent reduction. We have even been told by some Scottish Government officials that it is slightly up on this year. Honestly, pick a number—any number.”

That is the level of confusion in the college sector, which is getting applications now for next year. When will it know what its budget is for the coming year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

Those are key figures for the SFC in order for it to be able to put in place the forecasts on which your budget is based. It was clear from the Fiscal Commission’s evidence to us that it wants to see that policy. It is in the concordat protocol that you have laid out. The Government has not provided that information to the Fiscal Commission for two years in a row. Does it intend to provide it in the future? Is that a decision that will last?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

Is it unusual for a UK budget to change the amount of money that we would have?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Michael Marra

I will move on to education and universities. This morning, there has been press coverage regarding the £28.5 million funding cut to universities. Your stated aim is that

“additional savings are to be made in the HE sector, including from reducing first year university places”.

How many university places for Scottish students are you looking for universities to cut?