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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Michael Marra

I will start by putting on the record my involvement with the Eljamel inquiry, which involves representing constituents.

Mary Morgan, I have a brief question that relates to the issue that my colleague John Mason raised regarding the £9 million of legal services provided to NHS Scotland boards. Do you bill those boards for the services that you provide?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Michael Marra

Last week, we heard evidence from a member of the Faculty of Advocates who said that he is representing a group of NHS boards in a couple of on-going public inquiries, including the Covid inquiry. The £9 million figure does not represent the entirety of the budgetary impact for the NHS boards that are involved in inquiries. They draw certain services from you, but they engage other services externally as well. Is that correct?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Michael Marra

What services does it provide?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Michael Marra

That is very useful. Do you have any understanding of the global figure for the impact of legal costs across all the territorial boards?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Michael Marra

That is fine. Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Marra

As do lawyers.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Marra

Those systems are much more commonly used in commercial disputes in relation to contracts, negotiation and analysis. Is that right?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Marra

I suppose that that is part of the issue with Dr Ireton’s position. I understand the tensions that arise in relation to the freedom that inquiries have, and in your evidence this morning, you have been a stout defender of the need for judges to be led by the evidence as it is presented—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Marra

In your written evidence, you identified that you were restricted partly by your inability to command evidence, particularly from commercial firms, which would not provide you with such evidence. Would it have been better if the inquiry had had full statutory powers from the outset?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Michael Marra

Dr Ireton, you set out what one might call your inquiry taxonomy, when you talked about forensic, policy and truth-telling inquiries. Have you looked at the issues of commercial interests and what happens when a firm, or a set of organisations, refuses to give full evidence due to commercial interests and the need to protect their firm or organisation? Are statutory powers required for that?