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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

In the autumn, the underperformance in relation to the September intake accounted for an underperformance of approximately £9 million against the budget. What level of savings was written into the budget at that point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

After the crisis broke into open public in November, there were months of silence from the leadership of the university. Despite front-page newspaper headlines telling 3,000 members of staff that the university might close, there was silence. Were you one of the people who were advocating for that silence?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Amanda Millar, who do you think is responsible for the hubris?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Can you name them, for the record?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

I will start with the declaration of my former employment at the University of Dundee in two different spells over a period of 14 years. I certainly know Dr McGeorge personally from that time and, given the focus on personal relationships in the university, I thought it best to declare that to the committee and to the many members of the university community who are watching today, aghast at what has happened to the place that they have all loved, as you have all said that you do.

One of the things that has been said to me most frequently is that these people have set the university alight and then just walked away, so I want to start with your departure, Dr McGeorge. I believe that you were suspended from your position, then you left the employment of the university. Can you tell us the terms under which you left the university?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

The answer to that is no.

Did you sign a non-disclosure agreement with the university?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

I think that people would struggle to believe, given the content of the Gillies report and the evidence that we have heard today, that the crisis that was unfolding behind the scenes played no role in your decision no longer to be the director of finance.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

I have also spoken to sources in the university in student recruitment, who said that they were sounding the alarm on the issue way before then, that the figures were entirely unrealistic and that management were told that but did not listen.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

I will refer to one specific instance. The audit and risk committee of the university met on 23 October, and a minute of that meeting was presented to court on 12 November. That minute says:

“At the balance sheet date, the University had access to a £40m Revolving Credit Facility (RCF) with the Bank of Scotland. This RCF has never been drawn since its initial agreement in 2016. The RCF has been renewed since the balance sheet date and is now in place until October 2026.”

Given the evidence that we have heard today, none of that was true at that point, was it? There was no access to a revolving credit facility. As Mr Fotheringham has already told us, that had not been renegotiated with the bank. Who would have prepared that minute?